RO: Man slaughters women because he can't get a girlfriend

But not ones fueled by sexual frustration, I’d think. And they’d probably be targeted less if society didn’t sneer at them so much.

Yah. They make easy targets (getting into cars with strangers for a living and all) and are less valued than other members of society, so other people in general don’t care too much when they get killed, resulting in making less of a fuss/putting less pressure on the police to catch the killer.

Just curious: what do you think is drilled into women’s heads about being women? Is it all kittens and rainbows and “You go, girl!”? Nope. The shitty gender messages are doled out both ways. Men are not devalued and women are elevated. Everyone gets some really crappy messages about what it means to be a A Man or A Woman, and many people are bent out of shape about it in one way or another. Most people, however, do not go on shooting sprees over it. The crazy dude in the OP is an outlier, expressing how people feel on the far edges of gender issue. I guess the female equivalent would be someone like Aileen Wuornos or something.

I think you have some confirmation bias on the media images, or you’re just not looking at the same media images that I am. Don’t overcompensate this now and make yourself the victim. The gender bullshit goes both ways, trust me, and probably in equivalent amounts.

Obviously generalizing anything about men as a gender by the behavior of one nutcase is a bad idea.

Something tells me this dripping waste of human flesh couldn’t get it up even if he paid Julia Roberts $3,000 for an entire week.

Incidentally, for all ghoulish observers, here’s the jerk’s YouTube page, plus more information that a hacker uncovered.

Man I’d jump at the chance to pay $ 3000 for an entire week. You can’t even get a crack whore for that price!

It’s evil and wrong, but I admit I chuckled upon reading the following quote from his femal neighbor across the street:

A fitting epitaph, in a completely wrong kind of way.

I know he was crazy, but just how hard is it to get a girlfriend, anyway, in 19 years of trying?
And was he aiming for supermodels out of his league, or just totally inept at talking to women at all? Because it seems to me the chances are that even the crazy might attract…someone… at some point - a lid for every pot… In my lifetime I have known three men who are gayer than Boy George who are happily married to women and are fathers to boot. I know an obese man as wide as he is tall, married 15 years to a 100 lb. woman and they are parents of 5 kids. I have seen two women in a club nearly get in a fistfight over a man with half his front teeth missing. I know a man with severe scoliosis who is married and has two girlfriends on the side. (Not to mention the many, many divorced women and single moms who would happily marry any guy with a job and a pulse.)…My point is, women aren’t all mysterious stuck up bitches who hold out for George Clooney or Donald Trump. This murderer either radiated creepiness/ insanity and women backed away - or - he looked down on ‘inferior’ ordinary women and yearned after Victoria’s Secret models (who might very well have been holding out for GC or DT.)

Extremely disturbing, all of it. Did any of his relatives or co-workers say anything about him?

I don’t think he was crazy. Just very very very very pissed off.

Are we using crazy as a technical term? If not, I’d say “killing several strangers and then oneself because one is angry at oneself” is crazy almost by definition.

I would disagree. I believe some people murder because they’re crazy. And I believe some people murder, not because they’re crazy, but because they’re really really really really pissed off.

How are you doing these days, CM? Calm? Getting laid regularly?

Just checking. :smiley:

Don’t you think that killing people you don’t know because you are, in the abstract, pissed off, is a bit unbalanced? The problem is not with women but with him. He took it out on strangers. That’s not rational behavior.

People do all kinds of things out of anger. Would you call a woman who smacked her husband “crazy”? My roommate in college was involved in a bar fight. Was he crazy too? And then there are people who get so angry that they end up murdering people.

Nah, just down here in the basement cleaning my guns, silenus. :smiley:

I’d say a woman who smacked me because she was mad at my husband–where I am a stranger to them both–is crazy (again, in the colloquial sense, not in any technical sense). Her anger doesn’t make sense of her act.

How the hell is a woman smacking her husband in any way equivalent to a man killing strangers? If a woman who didn’t know either of us smacked my husband, yes, I would think she was crazy, and that’s not even remotely as extreme as murdering random women. You’re way off in left field about this.

So if someone murders, they are automatically crazy?

I don’t think so. Your previous quote caught my attention on the guy’s blog as well:

This is really the crux of the scary biscuit in his thought process, warped as it is: he is shifting blame for his own inability to have a relationship onto a Black man achieving the Presidency, so, yeah, all Black men are now wondering “Where de white women at?” as plunder. Such a stupid conclusion, but, the fear of whatever the hell “that” is driving people to stupid acts lately.

It’s not testosterone poisoning, but blind and ignorant hatred masking for massive inferiority and insecurity. I did read his blog, and saw a sad and lonely person, who was ignored by his father, and bullied by his brother; that combo twisted his mind into a real mess. The above quote gives me insight to how that gap of giving someone decent tools to deal with life can lead to blame and hatred, and have horrific consequences. We need to get at the root of that twisting of mind that happens with hatred, rooted in insecurity.

So this is the part where we ask “Are you being dense on purpose?” Except I don’t actually think you are. But this is the part where I’m supposed to ask that.

What we’ve been saying constitutes the “crazy” here, in both the murder and the slapping case, is the fact that the targets of the act are known to the perpetrator to have had no role in the cause of the perpetrator’s anger.

Uh, did I say that? It’s sensible to consider the circumstances. I tend to think people who kill random strangers because they have severe emotional and psychological issues are crazy, yes. Murder for other reasons is not necessarily crazy.