Wow, these guys are as powerful as the Chinese government…control over the internet and all. I never knew. :rolleyes:
They only need to help elect Republicans (specially the Tea Party kind), virtually all scientists and most of the public do agree that we should be doing more, but the current republican leadership could not care less.
The Republican presidential candidate already told us that doing nothing will be the order for the next 4 years, (actually making the situation worse as his solution to our energy problems is to just drill)
If their efforts are geared to convince just over 50% of the population to vote for their men.
Wouldn’t the fact that they would fund scientists that go against their political desires be classified as a good thing?
Only if they followed their advice. It looks a lot to me like pandering, good pandering though, but pandering in the end.
There’s always the chance that they are so ignorant that they firmly believed the results would be different. Just because they are rich, don’t mean they are smart. You can hire smart.
I’m not at all certain that I was throwing around straw.
What straw? You were critically responding to Robot Arm’s comments about lionizing the Koch brothers by asking if the Koch brothers should have created a large business out of altruism and I was pointing out that Robot Arm didn’t seem opposed to the notion of people making money out of self interest but that we shouldn’t pretend they are heroes because they make money.
I didn’t try to tell everyone what you think or use a strawman argument. I asked you a question. The plain implication of what you were saying (i.e., sneering that the Kochs were enriching themselves and lining their own pockets) was that there is something unwholesome about growing a business for the purpose of making money. You’ve couched it in terms of not being a hero and not being a public benefactor, but it seems clear to me that you think there’s just something fundamentally bad about it.
If I’m wrong, fine, I apologize, but that’s the distinct impression I got from your posts.
Wrong. You made me out to be some idol-worshipping rich guy bootlicker, when nothing I’ve said could be read by a reasonable person (which excludes a very large swath of the membership here) to reach that conclusion.
I think you need to reread what I said in the context of what you were replying to, unless your reply to Robot Arm was supposed to be a non sequitor. I’m sorry if it struck a nerve but I don’t think you worship people with money, I think you may worship their money but I don’t think you worship them.
A pretty damn loaded question.
“Sneering”, “unwholesome”, “fundamentally bad”; are you still just asking questions, or are you genuinely claiming I hold those views? If you are, there’s a term for that.
You are wrong. I’ll be waiting for a non-conditional apology.
That flies in the face of the conservative mantra though. Rich people are rich because they did everything themselves, from paving the roads to their factories, to hiring the private police and fire protection for safety, and paying the salaries of the consumers that buy their products. They built it all themselves! Most of them even birthed themselves, crawling out of the uterine canal using their own hands!
Actually, conservatives don’t believe that. But you knew that.
Sure they do: