Roger Stone says Koch gave Romney $100 million to name Ryan

Someone had to bring this up here. Any legs to this story?

I saw several stories, including Reuters, but I think there is only one source.

Seeing how the law is set now, it is not likely that we would find direct evidence of that amount, that Ryan was/is a favorite of the Kochs is not a secret.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/02/142061/paul-ryan-koch/

Why, were they trying to sabotage the campaign?

Doesn’t seem very plausible. In order to offer a quid pro quo, the other person has to believe you won’t do the thing your offering otherwise. Does anyone believe the Koch brothers weren’t going to support GOP super-PACs regardless of Romney’s VP pick?

So implausible story from unreliable source. Doesn’t seem worth considering further.

Your wildest imaginings of what may go on in the realm of buying access are probably not even close to the reality. The Kochs are evil incarnate and represent the worst of what is wrong with American politics.

I would be surprised if the Kochs would risk going to prison over the selection of a VP candidate, especially in an uncertain election.

Uh, would that be illegal? As the blog reports they only told Romney that their purses would open if their candidate was chosen.

Like billionaires ever worry about going to prison…

And anyway, it would be a Club Fed, not FPMITAP, which already has its quota of Koch Brothers.

Vice-President? Why would they care? Or is the theory that the Koch’s would then have Romney assassinated soon after his election?

No need to go that extreme, in a close election like this one the Senate is also at play and chances are that we will get an almost evenly split senate, suddenly the tie breaker vote of the vice president becomes very important, particularly when legislation that could affect the energy companies comes to the floor.

Wouldn’t almost any republican could be counted on in that situation? Why pay that much for what you’d probably get anyway?

I already said that I dismiss much of what the OP said, I do not think the Kochs are paying that much, but it is still a huge amount, as usual, it is not that they buy politicians, they fund the ones that think like they do.

. . . which is just SUCH a terrible thing, I guess? :confused:

Not from some perspectives, but horrible in the sense that the most profitable enterprises of the Kochs are in fossil fuels. It is essential for them to help elect people who are deniers of the science that tell us that we can not use the atmosphere as a sewer without consequences.

Excuse me? The Kochs are great Americans who have directly created almost 100,000 jobs at their company alone. I love that on this board, great american heroes are denigrated because they exercise their first amendment rights, while men like Barack Obama that traffic in lies and false promises to sell the American people policies they don’t want and don’t need are held up as paragons of virtue.

Business leaders deserve almost 100% of all credit for why America became the most powerful and wealthiest country in the world.

And the fact that they are funding people that will make the future harder for almost all enterprises thanks to them voting for inaction should be ignored…

they might deserve the “credit” for the wealth and power of the very very tiny minority - how that makes the entire country great and wealthy, I fail to see.

That they can, yes.

One thing I find heroic is when someone sacrifices his own interests to see to someone else’s. Even if the Koch’s did create 100,000 jobs, it has been in the service of enriching themselves. There’s nothing noble about it.

Real heroes don’t line their own pockets.