Especially as Pink Floyd started out as a blues band…
This.
Moves to protest a Western nation in its ties to an actively genocidal fascist regime is helping the West, not harming it.
The UK’s declarations of who is and isn’t a terrorist has never had any legitimacy, any way, as we in South Africa know all too well.
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At this point do you agree that Israel’s plan to move the population of Gaza into a camp and only allow them to leave if they emigrate from the country entirely will be textbook ethnic cleansing if actually carried out?
Yeah this is one if those things that are part of growing up IMO. The realization your rock and roll heroes you worshipped growing up are not infact enlightened geniuses whose understanding of thr world goes far beyond that of boring mere mortals. They are just very good musicians who can put together a catchy song that sounds kinda deep, and put on a good show.
Still if they could stop turning into Tankie/Maga arseholes when they grow old, that would be nice.
I could perhaps see the argument that Pink Floyd is over-produced, and thus the flawless quality of the (studio) material detracts from its “soulfulness”. Granted there are some tracks that feel a bit too pop, but overall the music itself is deeply affecting and reaches a lot of people on an emotional level. It is largely a matter of taste: if you want soulless (IMO), try Boston, Journey or Asia.
Do you really mean that? Or did you just say it in
Oh Babale, You’re nearly a laugh, but you’re really a cry
To avoid sidetracking started another thread on this:
Pink Floyd, “soulless” and “overproduced”? Tracks that feel “a bit too pop”? Pink Floyd? The acid rock band? And what the fuck does “so white” even mean as a criticsm?
Excuse me? Who replaced all your PF records with Cher records? Or, maybe, have you listened to anything other than The Wall?
needs more sitar
So, later Beatles?
Learning to Fly is bog-standard eighties pop-rock.
The most ardent Floyd fans in the world will generally acknowledge that post Waters Floyd was vastly different. Most will probably agree that it’s inferior.
Certainly it’s not relevant to this thread.
First of all, I am nobody’s idea of a rock scholar. I’m not claiming to state facts, merely my own opinions and impressions. Second, I’m only referring to the Pink Floyd I’m familiar with, that of the 1970s - meaning post-Syd Barrett, pre-whatever most bands were doing in the 1980s.
Anyway: there’s this thing called “funk”. I can’t define it, but I know it when I hear it, and you have to admit that Pink Floyd are not a particularly funky band, even relative to other white British artists of their period. The Stones were funky. Cream was funky. Bowie was funky. Pink Floyd? Not so funky. They had the chops, but they didn’t have the groove.
That’s one problem I have with the band. My second problem is that rock, to me, has to at least have the illusion of spontaneity, if not the actual thing, and Pink Floyd come across as too calculated and cerebral - not for commercial reasons, but simply a matter of British self-repression. Again, that’s just my own impression of them.
My third problem with them is that they come across as humorless, self-important twats. But maybe that’s just Waters.
Awww, I don’t know about not being funky. This section of Echoes is pure Space Funk.
I’ve heard PF can be a good melatonin substitute.
(Playing scabpiicker’s Echoes. Is there a “funk” argument here, as David Gilmour is only playing wicked lead)
I still do not know what a “tankie” is yet when my brother told me people in the USA and UK were being arrested for holding up signs saying, “I support Palestine Action” (a group declared as terrorist as Isis and Al-Quaida) my reaction was the fucking labour party in the UK had taken sides 3-4 of “The Wall” as a guide.
Get 'them up against the wall
- Pink Floyd, “In the Flesh”
A little over 10 years ago. in Saint Petersburg (Russia) at a protest on Nevsky Prospekt (think Fifth Avenue) at Gostiny Dvor (a number of shops yet central and a common place for protests) I saw a woman hold up a blank sheet of paper and then arrested by the OMON (cameo wearing special police.)
Roger Waters has provided the playbook for fascism, though like Orwell considered it fiction (and in Water’s case, the imagination of an imaginary Rock Star who has taken too much LSD)
Because, the Tories never woulda done anything like that
Yeah, just like how the US Right Wing are using Texan Love Song for their anthem.
Seriously, man. Pull your head out.