Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!
It’s funny 'cause it’s true!
But it would be so easy! All Mittens has to do is release the details of a deal where he decided to make less money but preserve American jobs, as his patriotic duty. Shirley, he must have done that a bunch of times, all he has to do is show a few of them!
Boy, that’ll shut 'em up in a big hurry, huh? Gosh, wonder why he hasn’t?
I heard this in another thread and had the same thought process, but they could have gone for Huntsman.
How dare you question the magnanimous effect of job creators on the economy, especially during a recession where all must suffer austerity? You see, this demonstrates why CEOs cannot be competitive in the pay they receive. Their function is so necessary to the survival of a company, that they need not be involved in any of their decisions and their acumen and aura of Capital and aristocracy will still pervade the company, bringing it wealth and creating jobs. Why do you hate America?
Lost in the shuffle of the 1999-2002 flareup is that Bain Capital wasn’t obligated to create jobs. Any jobs created or lost as a result were entirely incidental to making a profit for the owners of Bain. That’s simply modern, unfettered capitalism at work.
But Romney is telling voters that his experience making a profit for investors at Bain also gives him insight into how to create jobs as president. It just isn’t true.
Huntsman does nothing for conservatives. He never had a chance, any more than Nelson or Boren would have a chance of getting a Democratic nomination.
It is too damn bad that Sarbanes-Oxley wasn’t around during this period. Then we would know for sure what was going on there.
Its a bit odd, isn’t it? The way patriotism is so commonly accepted in America as a value to be upheld. Except for business, which gets an exemption because its basic purpose is amoral. We are supposed to understand and accept this, as if it were something Written.
Suppose, say, Mittens reports to his investors. “Hey, guys, did a good thing today. Could have made us an extra 10 million bucks, but lost a thousand American jobs, or Plan B, which made us five million and kept those jobs. So, I went with “B”, because it was the right thing to do!”.
Two bits says his investors heartily congratulate him on his moral quality, and start making plans to move their money into more ruthless hands. Business is business, it is exempt from the rules. Well, the guidelines. Suggestions.
Now, here’s an interesting story about Guiness, makers of the black bread that pours.
(Your correspondent cautions that this is straight off the internet, and no fact checking of any sort is pretended or implied…)
Quite possibly the only moment of unity in Irish history, but no need to drag all that up…
On the other hand, consider a soldier. “Hey, boss, Russia is offering 3% higher pay for officers at my rank, so I’m going to go join their army. That okay with you?”
Hey, XT, to answer your question about the political strategy not the merit(s) of the argument: Yes, I think it will resonate until a return salvo of some sort is fired by Romney.
So far, let me summarize the campaign:
Romney Campaign: Obama has done a poor job
Obama Campaign: You are a liar/felon/anti-gay/anti pro choice/job killing/rich guy/that’s like Bush/pro-health care reform
The danger for Obama is the short attention span of the American public. I have a feeling that the big guns for Romney attack ads have not come out yet, nor can they until he chooses a VP to reinforce them via the talking heads in the media.
The difference is that Obama is a known quantity, having been President for four years already, in a sense having already been vetted in the last election. So while Obama can play the game of “Let’s learn more about this Romney guy, do you really trust him?”, Romney doesn’t have that card nearly as much. He has to play the, “Obama has failed and I am the man who can fix it”. The problem for Romney on that is that Obama’s record as President is an open book, it will be very hard for him to reveal something shocking at this point. Obama can keep hitting Romney, while Romney is kind of at the mercy growing perceptions at this point.
You mean, like…hmmm, let’s see…something like the swift boat issue? :smack:
Remember, all one side needs to do is swing a few million voters and that will turn the election. Are they not tied 47/47 now? It’s really just that 6% that is in play. It’s Ohio and Florida…because its ALWAYS Ohio and Florida.
Numbers are here http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2012/07/poll-obama-and-romney-neck-and-neck
Want some fun?
Mitt Romney. Fired every person in a company, offered to give them their jobs back for less money.
Worked with Michael Milken, was very sad when Milken was arrested for hugely criminal acts.
Was in charge of a company that committed the biggest criminal Medicaid fraud in US history.
How do I know this? Why, John McCain’s opposition research file.
And now you can read it too. Some great stuff in there… and Obama’s used none of it yet.
No reason he should, he can just stand there wearing his dignified Presidential face and let the interwebs do their magic.
Yes. Neck and neck. In the swing states. Neck and neck.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/07/sure-jenn-obama-is-panicking.html
Except in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida.
And, of course, that’s a Purple Insights poll.
They’re not one of the major firms.
Raises the same question as with the Ron Paul newsletters. Perhaps he had nothing to do with them. Though he certainly was happy to deprive the racists purchasing them of their money and use that money in order to campaign. What’d he do to deserve their money exactly? Surrender the proprietary rights to his name or persona?
Course, the standard answer would be that the labour theory of value is bunkum (Romney doing nothing at Bain was worth 2.5* as much as the average American job) and we shouldn’t intervene in the terribly complex workings of the market. Leave that to the luminaries and the vagaries will be sorted out by natural selection. After all, evolution and the elite are far smarter than the plebiscite and artificial selection.
Is it any coincidence that the super-villain in the summer blockbuster Dark Knight Rises is … Bane?
Hmmmm?
Anyone that thinks Romney will actually lead this nation to prosperity for all is just plain ignorant of the reality surrounding them…
Its a net plus for whose economy? We’re not talking about simple free trade, we’re talking about moving competency building industry overseas to the point where our competitive advantage starts to slip and out comparative advantage begins to be limited to supplying capital.
To a point, I would be OK with wage based inflation.
Well, when you argue that all this stuff improves the economy and almost all the improvement is being seen in a very small segment of the population, aren’t you ducking the issue?
Yeah, so if Apple didn’t manufacture iphone and ipads in China then some OTHER company would do so and then where would we be?
The global economy doesn’t work without us. Are India and China going to sell shit to each other?
Noone is going to lead to prosperity for all but it would be nice to slow the current trend of progressively higher and higher levels of income and wealth concentration.
The 100k number is a red herring, executives often pay themselves similar amounts while taking their real salary in tax evasive manners such as in stock profits so that it’s capital gains instead of salary exempting it from the majority of the taxes they’re supposed to be paying. There are other ways to do it as well but by no means should the numbers given be trusted, this guy plays shell games with money for a living. Also the bit about having no input/control over the company he was heavily invested in is just a lie. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either blind, stupid or both.
You don’t make the kind of money Romney has made by earning it, it’s all various kinds of theft that have been written into the tax code and corporate traditions by guys just like him. No one is worth that kind of money. No one. It’s just a hierarchy designed much like royalty systems of olde with new propaganda to justify it. Guy may be clever, handsome and tall but he aint worth 10000 working people all on his own.
In fact he’s probably had a net negative impact on the economy of the nation and humanity in general. He’s a pretty leech that gives you a thrill while he sucks the blood out of you. He doesn’t care if less value exists after he’s done with an industry, just as long a his bank accounts have more numbers in them afterward.
To varying degrees most people worth 10 million or more have a similar lack of community responsibility. It’s a very cynical demographic. As far as that kind of thing goes though Mitt is an all out all star, a grotesque example of humanity’s flaws.