Roommate dispute

Looking for opinions here but also looking to vent, so my apologies because this will probably be long.

As some of you know, I recently found myself without an apartment and needing new lodging tout de suite (we won’t get into that). A coworker told me that his roommates were moving out at the end of February and I could move in. Good price, decent house, seemed like a sweet deal. But the problems started almost immediately.

I gave him half of March’s rent in mid-February with the understanding that I needed internet for school (and wanted cable because I like my Law and Order marathons), so he promised to have it hooked up by the time I moved in. He had 2 weeks to do this, and more than enough money to do it. Now April’s upon us and still no cable or internet. I don’t want to pay out of my own pocket to get it hooked up because he gave me a flat rate for rent which included utilities and cable and internet.

Then there’s a whole host of generally inconsiderate shit. I don’t even care if he has friends over that want to get drunk until the wee hours. I just don’t want them to do it in the kitchen (my room is next to the kitchen) or turn on loud music while I’m trying to sleep. But then he invites friends over (“we’re going out to the bar at 11”) and they decide to play beer pong on the kitchen table until 3 AM.

I let him borrow my car once to take his dog to the beach to go fishing. The next day, my car smelled kind of fishy. The day after that, it smelled completely rotten. I mentioned it to him. Apparently, he had filled a 5 gallon bucket with water and bait shrimp, then driven around with it uncovered on my backseat. Turns out it spilled and there were now shrimp rotting in my car. So he offered to clean out my car, which he did. But while doing so, he took out my air purifiers which had never made it into the house during the move, and left one sitting in the front yard. Where it got rained on, and is now broken. I brought it up tonight, and he kindly offered to give me my other air purifier, which he has in his room. No apologies for the first one, which he ruined through carelessness, or offers to replace it.

Then there’s the slightly skeevy stuff. I usually come home after work or school and just drop my stuff on the floor in my room and fall into bed (I don’t get home til after 11). But one night, I left my purse on the kitchen table. The next day, I went out to eat and noticed I only had 2 twenties in my wallet, but I thought I had had more money. I shrugged it off because I had just shelled out a lot of money in bills and figured I didn’t notice how much I spent. So I spent one twenty on lunch, went to work, came home, and left my purse in a common area again because I didn’t think anything of it. The next day, the other twenty was missing. :dubious:

Then the other day he woke me up in the middle of the night to borrow money. He’d gone out but hadn’t taken his scooter, and apparently ended up somewhere with no ride home, so he took a cab. Which he woke me up at 2 AM to pay for. I don’t know the whole story, like maybe he thought he had cab fare but didn’t and only realized that when he got home, or if he took the cab knowing he couldn’t pay but that I’d be home. Either way, it really annoyed me being woken up at that hour.

Finally, there’s the pet issue. He has a dog and is allergic to cats. I have (had) 3 cats. We discussed it before I moved in. My cats have been indoor/outdoor cats before, so I figured they’d be fine as strictly outdoor cats. He told me his dog is very good with cats. Well, that was a disaster. First off, (which bothers me regardless of the cat situation) he lets the dog roam the neighboorhood at will. We don’t have a fenced yard (although there is a 10X25 ft dog enclosure that he built on the side of the house) so when the dog wants to go out, he just opens a door (or occasionally, if he doesn’t want to get out of bed, his bedroom window) and lets the dog out. And she’ll wander around for hours at a time. Ignoring all the other problems with letting a collarless, tagless dog roam a populated area, that means she is free to terrorize my cats. Because she’s not good with cats, she harasses them mercilessly, chasing them up trees and barking like mad. Scares the shit out of all my cats. I understand she’s a dog. She likes to chase things. But that doesn’t mean that my roommate should tolerate that. When I’m home, I let the dog in the yard and then sit outside with her, to make sure she doesn’t wander off or bother my cats. But he doesn’t do that. Now one of my cats has run away, the other refused to come into the yard and was staying in a fenced-in backyard down the street where the dog couldn’t get to him (thankfully, those neighbors didn’t mind their new tenant). But that means he wasn’t eating, because he wouldn’t come into our yard. And he pulled all his fur out on his sides. So he’s half bald and lost like 3 pounds.

And I couldn’t do anything but bring my remaining 2 cats inside, confined to my bedroom. But I’m allergic to cats (hence the indoor/outdoor aspect and my urgent need of my air purifiers again). I tolerate it well enough, but I have allergy-induced asthma. In the past, I controlled it by not letting the cats in my bedroom, having the air purifiers, and letting them out at night so the dander doesn’t get too unbearable. Now I’m wheezing all the time and can barely sleep.

Ignoring all the other problems, what bothers me most about the pet situation is that he doesn’t seem to care. I tried gently broaching the subject at first, bringing up the dangers of letting a dog wander freely (traffic, Animal Control). Then I tried to show him how much it stressed out my cats. We just talked about it tonight, and I tried to tell him how upset I was that Bridget ran away (I walked and drove the streets calling her, knocked on all my neighbors’ doors asking about her, and searched the gutters for flattened kitties. She’s gone) but he doesn’t care or even feel like he did anything wrong.* He keeps saying “She’s a dog. Dogs like to chase cats.” Well, dogs would also love to shit wherever and whenever they pleased, but it’s up to the owner to train them not to. If he would have just supervised the dog when he let her out like I did (or used the dog enclosure), then he could have prevented most of this problem, and it would just be a matter of letting the cats and dog get used to each other.

Ugh. So now I guess I’m looking for a new place to stay. Again.

*I know that I bear some responsibility for this. I took a chance letting her be outside. However, seeing as how she hasn’t turned up dead on the side of the road, or in an animal shelter, or in a neighbor’s house, I’m fairly certain she ran away because she was tired of the dog chasing her. So please, let’s not turn this into a debate about indoor vs. outdoor cats.

Sounds like you got a bit of a raw deal but a lot of the points you make don’t point in your favor.

Call it a wash and move on.

Really? What doesn’t point in her favor? The guy’s a jerk and a thief. I’d move out post haste and sue him for damages. But that’s just me. I tend to be free and loose with most things, but not about money/property. I’d let him slide on the waking-you-up parts but not on the air purifier, car, cat, and thievery.

Ok. You are allergic to cats. Yet you have 3 of them.

He is allergic to cats AND has a cat-aggressive dog.

So, you move in with him.

Um, what? :confused:

p.s. Also, who is Bridget?

Complaining about the cable is pointless because she’s the one who wants cable. Why should it go in his name if she wants it?

The car thing and the air purifier thing is pretty shitty. That’s a point in her favor.

Leaving your wallet or purse unattended around someone you’ve just started living with and don’t know if you can trust yet is dumb. It blows that he stole from her, but if this came after the 3 AM beer pong tourneys it may have been one of his jackass friends.

Finally, the pet issue is her biggest mistake. She has special requirements for her cats (being allergic and owning 3 is a whole nother weird thing) that should have been worked out before she committed to anything. That said, if he’s not using the dog enclosure for the dog, why didn’t she use it for her cats? 10x25 is a huge space. Finally, dogs do like chasing unfamiliar cats. If this is so important, it should have been worked out before.

Your roommate seems to be engaging in typical immature college-boy behavior: the partying-til-all-hours, the poor pet ownership, letting the dog out his window, being poor and “borrowing” money without asking, waking you up to borrow money, forgetting to bring your air purifier inside, spilling shrimp in your car and not cleaning it up… etc. I guess you had no way of knowing this beforehand, but are you really that surprised?

But mostly what I want to express is that I am really saddened for your cats. It was a very bad decision for a pet parent to move into a house where the pets could not live, and just let them be permanent outdoor cats. Thing is, your cats have in essence become abandoned, homeless cats. That is terribly irresponsible pet ownership. I can only hope that Bridget found a new, more responsible person to care for her. And your other cat - the one who is “half bald and lost like 3 pounds” – shame on you!! It is NOT the dog’s fault that your cat ran away and/or disappeared, it’s YOUR fault for not housing them and caring for them properly!

I am honestly feeling really sick to my stomach with worry to think of your poor cats and they way they have been abandoned. Please try to find them new, loving & caring homes - people who are preferably NOT allergic to cats.

stab him in the face

Red Roses for Me, it sounds like you have had a hellish few months, are still recovering from some trauma, and in a desperate bid to gain some stability for yourself, have made some questionable decisions. I have sympathy for you, as it’s happened to me before. Hell, I am sure that it’s happened to a lot of people here.

But the key thing is that you need to recognize that you are vulnerable to shitty decisions right now and stop posting about your personal life here for a while. It’s not going to go well for you when you do and you need uplifting voices right now.

Think extra extra hard about everything you do for the next year or so. Make no decisions until you have thought it through multiple times. Your brain is recovering from the trauma of an abusive relationship and it’s understandable that it’s not functioning at optimal levels right now.

And yes, that guy sounds like an ass. You need to get away from that. Find someplace your kitties can be inside with you and learn your lesson from that. Good luck. :slight_smile:

First, all in all, your roomie sounds like an inconsiderate jackass. I feel bad for you and would move out ASAP because even if you can solve all the individual problems right now, the overall attitude is unlikely to change anytime soon and more will surely pop up.

On the other hand, to be neutral about it, a lot of this stuff is typical roommate crap that’s best sorted out before you move in.

The cable/Internet: That’s definitely his responsibility. Ask him again (if you’re going to live there). Tell him you really need it for school.

He’s the partying type and you’re not? One of the first things to ask about before moving in, especially if you’re in a college town or living with college-aged people. Not his fault or yours, but a matter of different lifestyles and poor communication/compromise skills. Maybe wear earplugs as an interim solution?

Fish smell: Definitely his bad. What a jackass. Never let him borrow anything of value again.

Purse: “Inconsiderate” doesn’t necessarily translate to “thief”. Unless you’re certain that it was him and have evidence, I wouldn’t go this far. It could’ve been a friend of his, a friend of yours, or a mistake on your part. Don’t leave your valuables in plain sight of others – a good life lesson, bastard roommate from hell or not.

2am taxi fare: Was this a one-time emergency? Shit happens; it’s what roommates and friends do for each other. It’s ok to be there for him once in a while. Twice? Remind him to leave change for a ride home the next time he goes out. Thrice? “I’m sorry, I need my sleep. It’s very rude of you to keep doing this. Please be more responsible. One last time I’ll help you out, but no more after this.”

Dog: Yes, it sucks for your cats. But a dog’s a dog; it’s the owner that’s a bitch. It’s one thing for him to simply not care about your cats, it’s something entirely different for him to lie about his dog’s behavior to get you to move in. He practically caused the disappearance and/or death of a beloved pet and still doesn’t give a shit. Report him to animal control if you must (but think of the dog, too – is it treated well, at least?). Otherwise, fuck him. His childish antics will land him in enough drama and trouble on its own; you can just take the high road and find a better place. Which is exactly what you’re doing, it seems.

Good luck.

Uh, because “he promised to have it hooked up by the time [she] moved in”? Would you just suck it up if you moved in to a new, all-utilities-included place and had no water, electricity, or gas for 2 weeks because it’s not the landlord who wanted them?

Let me address these points separately. Yes, I am surprised that my roommate would “borrow” money without asking. Being a young adult does not excuse immoral behavior. Also, being lazy about bringing the air purifier inside is one thing. Not apologizing profusely and offering to replace it when your carelessness has resulted in its breakage is something entirely different.

Next, please avoid the indoor/outdoor debate as per my OP. First of all, my roommate misrepresented his dog’s behavior. She is not good with cats. He knew this. She apparently has been chasing the neighbor’s cats since he brought her home, and IMO just because she doesn’t try to eat them does not mean she’s good with them. Second, I said specifically it’s not the dog’s fault. It’s the owner’s fault for not supervising the contact that they had. Third, I see no reason why my allergies have anything to do with whether or not I should own cats.

(An aside to whoever else brought up the allergies/cat ownership question- I haven’t always been allergic to cats. It’s quite common for people to grow into and out of allergies)

I can’t help but think your poor remaining cats would be better off at a cat shelter where they might be able to find a stable home. :frowning:

I know they are yours and you love them to bits, but it’s got to be about their welfare.

Your roommate is a classic immature douchebag. It sucks that you found yourself in a position to take the first (apparently) decent option, because that’s how these scenarios happen.

Knowing somebody from work–or even being bff’s with them–is no way to gauge how living with them will work out. (I know this from extended pulling-hair-out-of-my-head incredibly annoying experience.)

I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this. After my last roommate and I parted ways, I swore that the only way to make living with someone else work as an adult was to be madly in love with them. And even THAT’S no guarantee.

I hope you can get out of this ASAP. This guy ain’t gonna change.

And I hope you find Bridget, too. :frowning:

It’s worth noting that cats are animals, not children. Cats are supposed to live outside. (And most of the time, so are we.)

The OP stated specifically that this wasn’t to be a debate about indoor vs. outdoor cats. Just FYI.

And I dunno about you, but I am not at all inclined to live outside. Even a fifth of the time.

Nor am I or my cats. I’m sorry for the hijack, just needed to say that.

You were desperate and made a very bad decision by moving in with this guy. Get your cats out of there, lock up your shit and start looking for new living arrangements immediately.

I understand “desperate” but you need to start thinking like an adult. You have responsibilities to your cats and yourself. You obviously are in a different place than this guy and you need to get yourself in a situation that is more condusive to adult living than this guy can possibly offer. He misrepresented himself, but did you inspect the premises prior to moving in? Did you discuss your need for quiet at night? Leaving the purse out…wtf!

This guy is an asshole. Get out ASAP. I hope you didn’t sign anything.

RedRosesForMe, I have no real advice, just sympathy. I know you’ve had a rough time of it.

Actually, I do have a little advice… I also agree the cats need to go. I know you love them and they are your beloved pets but they are literally causing you trouble this moment. Until you are properly settled you shouldn’t really consider pets anymore. They deserve a solid happy home and if you don’t got it, they don’t got it.
At the very least cut it down to one cat. Even better, get a hamster or something if you really need a fuzzy thing. :slight_smile: Take care of yourself right now.

And I didn’t start a debate on that, I only commented on something someone else said.

That’s called enculturation.

Then why don’t you supervise your cats when they’re outside?