Newser cites anonymous Washington sources, claiming that Trump may be thinking about tossing in the towel.
Any input?
Newser cites anonymous Washington sources, claiming that Trump may be thinking about tossing in the towel.
Any input?
It sounds very plausible. The Presidency is a hard job that takes a lot of work, and reading, and listening to advisors, and Trump doesn’t like doing any of those things.
I’m not sure what he’ll do though. If he cared less about what people thought them I could see him just playing a lot of golf and just showing up to sign things. But he cares deeply about being seen as a winner and as being in charge. He’s not smart, but he’s smart enough to know if he quits working or actually resigns, that will cement his legacy as a loser who couldn’t handle the job.
I hate hate hate Trump, and I hope he flames out in the most spectacularly humiliating way possible. But I think this article is pretty much just gossip. I don’t think Trump is going to quit or be impeached or be removed (25th Amendment or whatever it is). As much as I wish I were wrong, I think we’re in for a long, awful four years. We’ve been hearing – and hoping – Trump is about to quit since the beginning of the campaign. He’s not going to quit. As a country we fucked up massively and there’s no getting out of it now.
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I hate hate hate Trump, and I hope he flames out in the most spectacularly humiliating way possible.
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Me too. Thinking straight jacket and a net.
I would tend to agree with Bayard though. He is so narcissistic that he can’t believe that everyone doesn’t love him. That’s all fake news.
Off to MPSIMS.
Where does it say in that article that he’s thinking of quitting?
I agree. I doubt Trump has ever felt a moment of self-doubt. Confronted with evidence that he’s hated, he assumes that there’s something wrong with the people who hate him.
Wishful Thinking
(a) I’m pretty damn sure it’s not unusual for newbie Presidents (especially if they have limited experience) to be going “damn, I ran for THIS?” at some point. But they then say to themselves “Welp, yeah, I did ask to be here. Might as well make the most of it.” In the case of the current Chief, he may be more ticked off that he can’t just declare things fixed and get an ovation, than feeling in any way overwhelmed.
(b) It is damn unlikely that he may quit ***now ***after having gone through all it took to get there. If he didn’t stop when a sensible man in his place was expected to stop with minimal expense and pain, he’s meaning to stick with it all the way until/unless they have to carry him out.
It doesn’t. There have been a number of stories about Trump hating the job, but I’m not aware of any serious reports that he’s thinking about resigning.
The speculation that he was going to quit during the campaign was because a lot of people didn’t believe he actually wanted the job, he just wanted attention. But really he had no reason to quit during the campaign; he was getting a lot of attention, and getting to insult his rivals, and had massive rallies where he could rile up his supporters, but he had little hard work he had to do and not much downside.
But now he doesn’t have the fun rallies, and he doesn’t get to be around the massive crowds that love him. And when he did have his massive crowd on inauguration day he couldn’t get over that it wasn’t more massive.
Also, during his campaign he was surrounded by yes men. He could tell them to do whatever stupid thing, and they’d either do it, or figure out how to work around it without insulting or bothering him. I think that’s how it also was with his companies. But now at the White House there are a lot of people he has to work with and around who aren’t yes men and don’t like him or actively dislike him. And it’s a big adjustment from when he was a candidate and he’d say jump and his people would say “how high?” compared to now when he says it and people say “that’s not exactly how it works”.
But I’m definitely not counting on him quitting, he likes to be seen as a winner and as in power. When people were discussing that Trump seemed to not realize he put Bannon on the Security Council, he tweeted angrily about how he makes his own decisions based on data. He hates being seen as not in charge.
So I’m not exactly expecting him to quit, I’m preparing for the next four years like he’ll be the one in charge. But at the same time it wouldn’t be the most surprising thing if something happens and he does quit.
He might stick out 1-3 years for a more respectable exit. 1-3 months says “quitter.”
Stupid Constitution and three branches of government! :mad:
Oh please, oh please, oh please…
I can’t wait to see this.
He may have the job, but he’ll never quit. The would make him a loser, which is the worst thing he thinks anyone could be.
If he didn’t stop when a sensible man in his place was expected to stop with minimal expense and pain, he’s meaning to stick with it all the way until/unless they have to carry him out.
Lack of sensibility paid off then. And he did do it with minimal expense: half of what his rival spent, and ended with 4 times as much as she had.
He relied on small donors ( who sent in $280 million ) whereas her base were large billionaire donors and Super-PACs; a far more sophisticated and slick campaign against his little people.
She wasn’t sensible, giving up to avoid the pain, and neither was he, but maybe she should have.
I’m just waiting for him to get so angry and fed up with checks and balances that he attempts to declare martial law on live TV.
Then there’s only two options. Either his own Secret Service detachment shoots him, or they just grab him and haul him off stage, followed by chaos and the eventual “The President has been under a lot of stress” announcement.
He relied on small donors ( who sent in $280 million ) whereas her base were large billionaire donors and Super-PACs; a far more sophisticated and slick campaign against his little people.
Except for all those billionaires like DeVos who purchased high level positions with multi-million dollar donations. :rolleyes: