Ten police were killed on February 18th. See several photos with police in defensive positions with shields up in front of the Parliament. Here is one photo of police being hit with an explosive device shown here:
No, but preparing an explosive device takes a lot more preparation and level of commitment to violence than preparing a molotov cocktail. Molotov cocktails could have been prepared that afternoon, after things had already turned ugly.
Before noon, rioters set fire to the Central office of Party of Regions. Would governments in Paris London or Washington DC put up with setting fire to government/ruling oarty offices , obstructing lawmakers, and pelting police with paving stones and Molotov cocktails - killing ten police during massive riots that began on February 18.
Either way, it’s still not a cite for an IED, which was your original assertion. And similar actions by protesters in the west aren’t met with snipers.
The Catalan Parliament building was surrounded by protesters some months ago. They went on to harass Members of Parliament who headed towards the building (including a blind MP who had his guide dog on a leash). If I recall correctly molotov cocktails were thrown at the police on that same afternoon.
And you know how many protesters were killed by police action? In fact, you know how many public officials even considered arming the police with live ammo? I’m sure you know the answer.
I’d say the LA riots in 92 were much worse. The police were armed. Hell, the national guard was deployed. The government still didn’t deploy snipers, even as they took sniper fire from rioters.
You have not challenged my argument with your quibbling and nitpicking. And anyway as was pointed out before, it was TomnDebb’s source where I picked up the report of protesters using improvised explosives. See here;
I myself would not quibble with a reporter doing his or her job in the midst of that chaos over whether the weapons the protesters used to attack police guarding Parliament were incendiary or explosive because there could have been both.
Just guessing but when a petrol bomb goes off if some vapor is involved it could be determined to be an explosion. I have heard expressions such as ‘the gas tank exploded on impact’ and then of course we know an incendiary condition could ensue.
If he was a reporter that mis-identified a weapon, he would not be the first. Even if you can find one or two folks who assembled a bomb, you haven’t really justified the methods used against the protesters.
We’ve shown other incidents that can be compared that weren’t met with snipers. Mostly because snipers don’t seem to useful in controlling a riot, and probably make the situation worse.
LA is not the US Capitol and the riots were not over demands to overthrow an elected national government and to change the Constitution of the entire United States.
This link says that 36 of the 53 that died in the LA riots were shot. Of that total eleven were shot dead by police and national guard. Your comparison is quite poor.
It does not appear that police lines were breached, or any government buildings were occupied or set on fire, or any police being killed, or access to Parliament being disrupted.
This was in September 2012. Is there a more recent and more violent protest?
No, I think it’s quite good, actually. It’s normal to shoot looters in the U.S., and L.A. had degenerated to shopkeepers defending their own property. The national guard still don’t deploy snipers.
Partly through the riot’s political aim being poorly defined, the government in L.A. in 92 didn’t decide that it had lost all authority, so it didn’t resort to useless tactics such as the Yanukovych government had engaged in. The current government in Ukraine doesn’t think it’s lost all authority. They probably infer this due to the small number of pro-Russian protesters and the extreme measures the separatists employ, which are alienating the general public. In turn, it wisely limits its activity to trying to regain control of government property, and not sniping at protesters.
I clicked on the link and it was videos on a bunch of riots that I couldn’t upload. Why not post a link to a written news report where some facts and details can be read?
You have no ‘proof’ of anything.
This is what pops up on that link
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Students protesting in South Korea put their studies of revolution to use, building a wall of flames.
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