Proving that age can wither posters and stale their infinite lack of variety.
This is among the most frightening posts I’ve ever read in any kind of social media. Here we have one person, the esteemed arfurvirus, hysterical that the Russian ambassador met with the President of the United States more than twenty times, yet is not concerned that this same diplomat met with campaign staff of a private citizen running for POTUS.
The frightening part is that there are tens of millions of our countrymen and -women who believe this is a smoking gun. And they vote.
I weep for our nation.
He’s not “hysterical” about this - he just thinks that he’s caught out us libtards in some massive “Gotcha ya!” of hypocrisy, unaware that the two things he is comparing are so fundamentally and so blatantly different that his assertions of hypocrisy are laughably ludicrous.
I mean, the whole thing was wrapped up by the second response but we do like to keep poking posters like this if only to see them do their little dance.
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Then can we get it moved? Because it seems to be more of a rant than a discussion of anything election-related. The OP is not looking for a debate, is not asking a question, is not seeking opinions.
Some perspective, from the NYT
So the issue is really not about contacts with Russian officials, but rather whether there was collusion about election tampering (or possibly Logan Act violations), and in the specific case of Sessions, his misleading response to the Senate.
FWIW, it’s being alleged in various right wing sources that during Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign he opened a back channel to Iran via a diplomat named William G. Miller, to communicate to them that a relationship-reset opportunity was coming. But I’ve been unable to find this in mainstream sources, so skepticism is warranted.
The frightening part is that a majority of Congress believes this.
it was unused from its creation to only a few months ago.
Presidents meet with foreign ambassadors all the time. It’s part of conducting foreign policy, which presidents get to do. Candidates and their staffs do not get to conduct their own foreign policy. Attempting to do so is a violation of the Logan act.
I hear Obama actually sat in the Oval Office!
And, he fathered two black children! :eek:
Trump speaks English. Obama also speaks English. Therefore they’re exactly equal.
Bringing up the Logan Act that the Obama Administration ignored from Bilderberg to Schumer cozing up in 2003
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-chuck-schumer-meets-vlad-putin-new-york-city/
Or This week as the Russian Ambassador hung out with the Dems,
https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/837428361882263552
“Oh NOES” The Russians… Rules For Radicals, the left is practicing them.
I know when I hang out with my friends, literally none of them look or talk to me. The photographic evidence of them ignoring me is the proof that we are good friends. At least, that’s what I keep telling myself. [Retreats to a corner to cry]
I have yet to find a single instance where arguing with someone who brought up Saul Alinsky was a productive thing to do. Seriously, hands up, any liberal who heard of Saul Alinsky before the right went crazy about him. Anyone? Anyone?
Me. He was right, all along, and snotty liberal intellectuals ignored him, sneered at his old fashioned ideas about organizing from the bottom.
Radicals hack out the path and clear the site, progressives build the cabins and the firepit. Liberals show up when the hot showers are installed.
My favorite Saul Alinsky moment was his comment on Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin: “Those guys couldn’t organize a Hadassah luncheon!”. He was right, and we should have listened. But you don’t get wise by being smart, you get wise by making mistakes. And so it went.
Yeah, Schumer seems worried. Or not.
You seem to have trouble grasping that it’s not the meetings, per se, but they lying about it. “If you lie in the interview, don’t expect to keep the job.”
Admittedly, I don’t know a lot about the Logan Act (I specialize in “bird law”), but how does having a doughnut with Putin apply? What aspect of a meeting in public and having a doughnut violates the Act? Is it because it was Krispy Kreme? I prefer Dunkin Doughnuts, personally.
I’d like to know what the Obama Administration was doing in 2003. Besides not existing.
I would bet $20 that this guy (arfur) is a paid member of the troll army.