I honestly don’t know how to explain this any clearer.
The big difference here, that many people have been explaining to you, is that the SBVFT info was all over the place. If CBS ran a story on it, it wouldn’t be noteworthy, because everyone with a broadcasting signal was pumping out SBVFT info (even if it was via their own commercials). The forged documents were a scoop, and a CBS exclusive (for television at least).
Blast CBS on the documents all you want. You’re not going to get a lot of liberals whining and complaining about it, no one doubts their unveracity(?).
Again, the point is, if CBS had an anti-Kerry exclusive, they’d have aired it in a second.
Of course you’re not. Liberals are partisan to the point of sacrificing the truth for thier own ideology. Your typical rank-and-file liberal holds the same allegience to their political party, as the typical sportsfan holds to his favorite team. That does not bode well for the traditional American ideals of individual freedom and liberty.
Tell ya what, instead of trying to read tea-leaves, let’s just look at what acutally happened.
CBS got documents from a known Bush-basher, were warned that the documents may be forgeries, but went ahead and aired the story anyway. It was both irresponsible and negligent.
See, and Ekers, you might want to listen-up too, there are other factors that the media must take into account besides ratings and profit. That would be credibility. Of course, knowing their audience, CBS probably didn’t have much to worry about in the credibility department, because, as you say, “You’re not going to get a lot of liberals whining and complaining about it.”
No, you’re not going to get liberals complaining about it, as long as it portrayed Bush in a negative light. But there certainly was a lot of rending of garments and gnashing of teeth over the Swiftboad Vets. And despite all the wailing over the Swiftboat Vets, the Swiftboat Vets have every bit as much, if not more credibility than Bill Burkett.
Isn’t this a trait of blowhards generally, regardless of their political leanings? It certainly applies to leftists on (or formerly on) this board like Diogenes, sevastapol, the great dalmuti and arguably that chumpsky guy who was a hard-core commie. Each of them, I’ve observed, can casually responds to challenge with either insult or increasingly preposterous/unprovable claims, including the good old “You’re a Nazi” defense.
That’s just because when one attacks the liberal ideology, liberals take it personally.
norinew took umbrage with my assessment of her being a liberal. (norinew has a feminine tone) Well, she makes liberal sounds.
Now we get to you. A favorite tactic of liberals is to accuse an advesary of something just to put them on the defensive. That’s just what you did when you accuse me of:
That’s bullshit, dude. I addressed a litany of Eker’s points in posts #64 and #79
And I nailed Ekers’ ass to the wall when he let this slip.
Let’s see… Ekers describes the story as “pissant muckraking” and insignificant. But Ekers insists that CBS rushed a insignificant and “pissant muckraking” story, for ratings and profit? Sorry, that just don’t add up.
Well, here’s how it is. You’re braindead and I ain’t goin’ to get banned.
By the way, these uses of “ain’t” and “don’t add up” come straight from “Doctor Phil’s Guide to Exaggerating Southern Mannerisms in Order to Appear Wise”, doesn’t it?
‘Cause if you gotta sell a heapin’ dose of good ol’ advice, you best wrap an apple pie 'round it, hear?
Just for the record, and to be clear, I didn’t agree with Shodan that your comment was against the rules. RS, who is quick to throw out insults (veiled and otherwise), lost his “right” to expect civil discourse long ago.
Okay, first off, everyone take note! Razorsharp in unequivocally right! I am female! As far as “making liberal sounds”, I take this to mean, in “RazorSpeak” that I don’t agree with him on everything down the line. Come to think about it, he’s right about that, too; that’s twice in one post. If he doesn’t knock it off, he may actually gain some credibility.
No, that’s what you stated when you were weaseling out of initially calling the story “pissant muckraking”, and “the story had no real significance”. See, I was able to rub your nose in that, because if your true sentiments were that the story had no real significance, then that didn’t jive with your defending CBS with the “ratings and profit” motive. When I nailed your simple ass on that, then you went into the,
weaseling.
See, you didn’t think it significant, but surely CBS must have, otherwise you are exposed as one who is willing to just make things up as a last measure of defending your personally constructed version of reality, while it all comes crumbling down around you.
Well, for the fourth time, I’ll just state that the story didn’t strike me as significant and CBS has profit as a major motivation.
If you want to keep kicking that horse, (or offering it drinks of kool-aid), go right ahead.
Yes, I believe I said that a few days ago.
That’s funny. What exactly am I making up? That it was a dumb story? That CBS thought it would strike viewers as significant, especially since it was close to election day? That CBS screwed up? Get your head on straight and get back to me because these questions are truly the most important ones of our time.
Well, I’m always happy, sir, to know that I’m amusing sometimes. As far as knowing anyone who fits that description, no, I don’t personally know anyone like that. I have a very sheltered existence.
Right, but if you didn’t see the story as significant, then how could you see it that CBS would air an insignificant story for ratings and profit? Your two different opinions do not add up. Not only do you want to have it both ways, you have to have it both ways. And what does it say, when a major news organization puts it’s motive for making a profit, ahead of the truth?
You are making up the “ratings and profit” excuse.
Funny how some have said, “Untill I see actual evidence”, such as an internal memo that admits CBS’s complicity in a scheme to influence the vote, then they refuse to entertain the concept of such shenanigans by a major network.
But yet, they willingly accept the idea that the ressurection of a thirty-year old story, that does not differ from the party-line of the last four years, is “breaking news”.
Let me tell you something. You have about as much of a chance to see an internal memo admitting that CBS aired the “forged documents” story to influence the vote, as you have seeing an internal memo admitting that they aired the story for ratings and profit.
And your funniest line of all:
Just like clubbin’ baby seals.
Now to norinew. What are you doing attributing quotes to me that I didn’t make? Having trouble keeping a train of thought? Can’t keep me out of your head, can ya? Deep down inside, you’re hot for me, aren’t ya. Go ahead, admit it.
Well, I would admit that I’m hot for you, but it isn’t true, and I’m not in the habit of being dishonest. As for misattributing that quote, you’re right; you didn’t say that. GomiBoy did. I do indeed have trouble keeping a train of thought sometimes, as I have two teenagers and a four-year-old who believe it is their mission in life to derail me.
Much as I hate to further glorify Razorsharp by continuing this thread, I just can’t help myself.
Let’s look at that liberal ideology. In post #39 you list it as
Show me a liberal that supports this stuff. Hell, show me anyone that supports this sort of thing. The only thing objectionable would seem to be what you think falls into these categories. A better example would be saying that all conservatives support war mongering, leaving the poor out in the cold, helping the wealthy, and destroying the environment.
Now here you almost had me. Post 64 was you circling Ekers with accusations about what you think happened at CBS, much like he is doing with you. No facts here, just suspiscion. Post 79 was straight garbage, and was actually the post when you went off on your Kool-Aid obsession. Your first three sentences consist of
Skipping the next sentence we find
and
Maybe you should just stick to the pit and IMHO since your debating style seems to lack a factual grasp. Better yet, enter a twelve step program about this Kool-Aid obsession of yours.
