Sad news for "Deadwood" fans

Here is a link to the site that has the transcripts.

Dennis, it’s not your fault. :slight_smile: But stay away from My Name Is Earl, please?

I read somewhere that Milch wanted to do four seasons, because the original Deadwood only lasted four years. But we’ve only had what – about a year’s worth of story? Hell, the actors could write their own lines. Let someone else produce it.

It sounds like part of the problem is that Tim Olyphant and Ian McShane both want to be free to do movies. McShane, in particular, has been a Deadwood’s best discovered actor (not that he’s the only good one) and I look forward to seeing how he does in his film career. I’ll sorely miss Al Swearengen, though.

Apparently Milch has already begun work on a new HBO drama called John from Cincinnati which is being described as “surf noir.” I’m sure it’ll be worth a look. HBO is really going to need something good to replace both The Sopranos and Deadwood.

At least they’ve confirmed that there will definitely be another season of Rome.

Ian McShane wants to start a film career? The guy’s been in films for over 40 years! It’s not like he was a nobody when he started.

You know those HBO spots where all the characters are shown with voiceovers of some eloquent dialogue … Al is the last one; anybody else want him to throw in a “cocksucker” at the end?

Exactly what I was thinking… Although he’ll always be Lovejoy to me! :smiley:

As much as he was Lovejoy in our house, he has become and will probably remain Swiggen!, as pronounced by Wu.

Season Two ended with at least one cliffhanger I’d like to see resolved…

Cy had taken a knife to the belly and we don’t know how badly he is wounded.

I was thinking the same thing brownie55, that’s not the kind of thing I’d like to see in any series finale.

Sopranos is on late night here in the UK, Six Feet Under lost its charm for me a while ago, Carnivale is on an obscure Sky channel so I keep forgetting about it, Deadwood contains too many cuss words for my girlfriend so it looks like Rome is the only safe bet out of that list for me :slight_smile:

Deadwood might be my favorite TV show, ever. Al Swearengen is one of my all-time favorite characters. I will be very sad to see it go. Say it ain’t so.! Someone needs his head examined over at HBO… fuck 'em all for the limber-dicked cocksuckers they are!

Not forgotten. :slight_smile:

Something that bugged me about the second season was the change in Trixie, especially her language. Everything was “fuckin’ this” and “fuckin’ that”. She spent the whole season in high dudgeon (sp?).

Rewatching the first season, it makes more sense and seems like a natural progression. It seemed to start when she went back to the Gem, after helping Alma kick her habit and after she tried to kill herself. It was like she had a glimpse of another life, and when she went back to Al, she was angry at herself, and stayed that way.

Anyway, before that happened, Trixie seemed content, and her language maybe reflected that.

It’s not like other networks, where I would say “You can’t cancel “Family Guy” (or “The Simpsons”) Get rid of that shitheap (select from about 95% of the other programming, the FOX stuff that sucks) instead!”

There’s nothing in the HBO lineup that sucks, IMO. Well, except for the 1,056th showing of Short Circuit II (that movie was played at least 3 times a week the first time I had HBO, in the early '90s, and it’s name became my shorthand for “HBO sucks 80% of the time.”)

Could be. W. Earl Brown (Dan Dority) has posted on the HBO boards. Those boards are unreadable, but someone at TWOP quoted him, and Brown is saying the problem is money. According to him, Deadwood’s expensive, and HBO’s CEO is looking to cut costs to save his job.

They film for how long – maybe three or four months? That gives Olyphant and McShane plenty of time to make movies. According to IMDB, McShane has finished one movie set for a 2006 release, and is filming two others. Olyphant has finished a film set for release in 2007. So they’ve had time to work on other projects.

But it must cost a small fortune. The extras and the animals in the thoroughfare scenes, Alma’s dresses, Joanie’s hairpieces, Trixie’s torn stockings, Wu’s pigs, all those great sets. We need all of that. If they have to strip things down or stay indoors, it won’t be as good.

What I’d like to know is whether they’re done filming season three. Anybody know?

Here’s HBO’s response to e-mails asking about cancellation:

"Thank you for writing HBO.

Despite recent articles on the future of our HBO Original series “DEADWOOD”, there has been no decision for the future of the series, and conversations regarding a fourth season are ongoing. Since “DEADWOOD” creator David Milch is working on another HBO Original series, we’ve granted our beloved Deadwood cast the latitude to pursue other projects, for the time being.

We appreciate your interest and hope that you will continue to find HBO to be a source of quality entertainment."

Well, so do I! That’s why I wrote! :slight_smile:

Am I wrong to be encouraged, since Milch still has a connection with HBO? If they want him to develop more stuff, maybe Deadwood’s a bargaining chip?

It’s sounding like this is more of a negotiating ploy, not a decision to cancel. Which isn’t to say that it couldn’t still be cancelled. I guess we’ll have to make sure that HBO realizes how much we enjoy this show.

Here’s the latest, and the first article I’ve seen that quotes Milch:

“How [expletive deleted] is it that we’re not coming back”? asked the show’s creator and executive producer, David Milch, on the phone from Los Angeles this week.

With fans of the critically acclaimed western series gearing up for the start of the third season June 11, HBO last week decided not to pick up contractual options that would have obligated the cast to hold off on scheduling outside work that would have interfered with the
production of a fourth season of “Deadwood.”

The move effectively puts the kibosh on a fourth season, which likely would have begun production this fall.

“If I were a betting man, which I am, I would say the odds are against [“Deadwood” returning],” Milch said."

There’s more to the article, but I can’t find the NY Post article to link it, and we’re not supposed to quote entire articles here.

Despite this, maybe we can hope that this is HBO’s way of cutting costs. They haven’t officially cancelled – they just didn’t renew contracts. Maybe Milch’s comments are intended to get viewers involved. ??

The last I heard (sorry, no cite) made it sound like some sort of power struggle. Apparently HBO doesn’t own all of the DVD rights for Deadwood like they do with say, Rome or Big Love. Now that’s an issue for someone somewhere at HBO.

To steal a line from a fellow Doper… this fills me with grrrr! Get it straightened out you mother fucking limber dicked cocksuckers!