In summary, we can make specific hyperbolic claims not grounded in reality, but excuse them by interpreting them as somewhat-related emotional appeals to anecdotal experience. Thanks for the contribution.
In this way “Mexicans are rapists”, becomes “Dark people are taking jobs that belong to you”. Sounds like an awesome recipe for political discourse.
Yes, “everybody is working two jobs/60 hours a week” is hyperbole. AOC did not literally mean that every person in the US or the world is working two jobs or 60 hours a week. Well spotted.
Crowley has said he’s not running and I don’t believe he wants to be a spoiler. I’m sure he’s got his eye set on another office in the future or perhaps even a return to congress in 2020 if the AOC bubble bursts.
Yes, he’ll be listed on the ballot under a 3rd party but without an active campaign, that won’t be enough to spilt left of center voters in a D+29 district
New York has some seriously fucked up ballot laws. Basically, the only way he can have them remove his name is for him to accept a nomination from them for another office.
This article is about as clear of a cite as I can find right now.
Just picking nits, it might be working out of desperation, but the problem might also be more a matter of working the equivalent of a full-time load and realizing that it may not be enough; that there aren’t enough hours one can trade for dollars to keep up with rising rents, rising inflation, and decreasing social safety nets. Will F could well be 100% right that wealthier people work just as hard, have multiple jobs, and perhaps even work longer hours. The difference is, they can absorb more economic instability than someone scraping the wage floor.
Yeah, as much as I want to bang on Joe Crowley, I’m not sure we have enough evidence to trash the guy. New York politics has always been cage match politics. I like AOC and all, but she’s gotta know what she signed up for. She ain’t running for her neighborhood association board.
So this is fun: Fox News’ concern that Ocasio-Cortez “high profile” may cause a “Dem rift” … (they say muttering “please” under their breath).
Here’s the thing though … there is a big temptation to overly exploit her right now (by various elements) and IF she is going to an upcoming talent I’m fearful that overexploiting her early can harm her long term value, whether viewed from the perspective of progressives in their battle over the steering wheel of the party or from the perspective of the more traditional party elements who want her motivating youth and Hispanic turnout for all D candidates.
Let’s see. Alexandria did well enough in Intel’s science talent search to get an asteroid named after her! (Any Dopers with an asteroid named after them?) She graduated fourth in her class from Boston University’s College of Arts and Sciences with a bachelor’s degree in economics and international relations; and has been named the National Hispanic Institute’s Person of the Year.
Ignorant badmouthing of her economics expertise would be de rigueur from the Board’s “conservatives.” But when she’s criticized by an apparent Rothbard disciple who is unable to answer even simple questions about the teachings of his idol, all one can do is laugh.
I do suspect that she is going to find the going tough once she gets into the House. Somehow I don’t think the experienced members of the current progressive caucus will just fall into line behind her plans and bow to her as leader, which is really what that bit comes off as what she is expecting to happen.
And IF she does advocate for holding the rest of the party, including other progressives who do not sign on as members her hoped for “sub-caucus”, hostage … give us what we want or we prevent you from doing anything … then she would be horrible both for the party and the for the country.
At least pretending to have a little humility and being open to to idea that maybe, just maybe, you have things to learn from the progressives in the House who have been at it for a while, rather than announcing how you will get them to change things before you even arrive (because of course they have been doing it wrong and you know better), would likely serve her career well.
That sort of posturing can end up getting you iced completely by all. It portends an increased probability that these 15 minutes of fame may be the only ones she gets after all.
That’s a pretty harsh reading. Bow to her as leader? Holding them hostage? Kind of overly dramatic language, don’t you think?
I would like to thnk the older members will not take too much offense to some gushy naivete from a new member. Hopefully more of them think “Aaaw. She reminds me of me before the weight of the world crushed my spirit.”
You’re exactly right. This is what Barney Frank said about Bernie Sanders just a few months after Bernie was elected to Congress.
…“Bernie alienates his natural allies,” then-Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) told the Los Angeles Times just months after Sanders first took federal office. “His holier-than-thou attitude — saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else — really undercuts his effectiveness.”…
I’m sure most of us have had the new employee that shows up at work on the first day and immediately wants to be the CEO. They’ll tell you all the ways your office needs to change and why you’e doing things wrong before they even know where the bathroom is.
God forbid we actually give her a chance to win and be in congress before we shit all over her. Remember, it’s important for the party that we discourage young voters who might be excited about some new candidates. If we don’t shit on candidates like her, then other young progressives might get the idea in their minds that the Democratic party welcomes them and wants them to be the next generation! What a horror that would be!
Was there something in the podcast about her being the leader of this sub-caucus? I only read the linked article and there wasn’t anything there about her claiming to be a leader. She just said that it’s easier to get 30 people to vote as a block than to get 100 people to do so. And you can do a lot with a 30 vote block. She’s right about that.