Sanders told to leave restaurant - why no debate?

Cite? From what I read, she was booted because of her numerous perceived egregious lies and other statements in her role as Press Sec. I’ve seen nothing to indicate the proprietor boots customers due to their political beliefs.

Religion is a protected class and people do choose what religion they are.

Yeah, I’ve seen claims that the story was out in some form before Sanders tweeted about it, but her tweet was the first reference I saw and was what pushed the story into wide circulation.

And it doesn’t make that much difference. Sanders’ tweet still comes off like “I’m staying above the fray, but I want everyone to know about that mean, rude person who threw me out of her restaurant.” Read it simply and you might think that Sanders is taking the high road; parse it and think for a few seconds, and she’s doing nothing of the sort.

I think I would have served her, and then quickly withdrawn the plate due to some possible, ah…irregularities in the preparation of her food. Which will be replaced just as soon as I can supervise another serving to ensure no such unauthorized ingredients are present. Just be another couple of minutes!

Yeah, well, Yelp didn’t exist in the Jim Crow era. And I would argue a helluva lot of things have gotten “sorted out” not only in my life time, but in my children’s lifetime. Progress isn’t moving at postbellum south pace anymore.

If you think the existence of Yelp would have been important during Jim Crow, then your underestimating of the Old Confederacy could use a small upgrade.

Oops, that should be “understanding,” of course. Missed the edit window.

This is factually incorrect. He offered them any other baked goods, but NOT a cake.

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I’m not saying that. What I’m getting at is, even if we don’t figure in the civil rights movment, society has fundamentally changed in the last 50 years. It wasn’t possible to effectively destroy a business overnight without committing arson back then. It is now. Communication totally changed, and transportation homogenized society immensely.

Yes. Isn’t it encouraging to see someone kicked out of a restaurant for something other than the color of their skin or the god they choose to worship?

This version of the high road reminds me of another attempt at taking the high road:

MAL
Sure. It would be humiliating,
having to lie there while the better
man refuses to spill your blood.
Mercy is the mark of a great man.

(MAL stabs Atherton)

MAL
Guess I’m just a good man.

(Stabs him again)

MAL
Well, I’m all right.

Do not pervert Serenity to your partisan purposes! You will only get one warning!

Ahem…

Per The New York Times report:

You are factually incorrect.

Since you’re the only person saying that, it must be your position. I personally doubt that time travel was involved but I’d be willing to read any evidence you put forward to support your assertion that it was.

So it’s just something you say in order to blame someone you disagree with. Physician, heal thyself!

Then stop doing it.

That last part is a common issue. The only way to avoid it is by public figures never saying anything political in public. That’s the policy for the royal family in the UK (although some of them do breach it, it’s very rare and never done by the queen), but it’s extremely restrictive on them and probably not even possible for a politician.

I don’t find it ludicrous, since she was polite and left without making a fuss. Debateable, but not ludicrous.

No. It’s something I say when people try to justify aggressive actions (or words) by claiming they’re only defending themselves from something that hasn’t happened yet.

First time for everything.

He refused to sell gay people a wedding cake on the basis that they were gay. I don’t know why you are compelled to contort yourself into pretzels to avoid this fact which, to my recollection, the baker is quite up-front about.

That isn’t what I’ve said. People should not be discriminated against on the basis of race, sex, religion, age, national origin, and sexual orientation by businesses. SHS was not being denied service for any of those reasons, so that’s up to the business. On the other hand, you seem to be in favor of businesses being allowed to discriminate on at least the issue of sexual orientation, and perhaps other factors that we haven’t talked about. That is the difference between you and I.

She tweeted about it to 3 million followers. How is this not making a fuss?

I read this strategy somewhere (the twitter thread maybe?): seat her party, take their orders, and never deliver the food to them. Whenever they ask where their orders are, say, “I’ll have to get back to you on that,” and then never do.

No, she was not publicly refused service. No, she was not ordered to leave the premises. And she certainly wasn’t asked to leave for “political reasons”.

She was politely and privately requested to leave and by her own admission agreed to do so.

And it was because she is a horrible person who does horrible things, not “political reasons”. Awesomely nebulous phrase there tho; why it could almost be applied to eveything! :rolleyes: