I know people who have moved here to the Dominican Republic because of the FEMA camps being set up in the USA. No one has ever seen one, oh there are videos of warehouse areas with new fences around them that don’t look any more like FEMA camps than any industrial park. But to be so sure of a fantasy that they move to a country where they cannot even speak the language and to carry on at the bar about how the USA has become a police state? Beyond my comprehension. But I owned the bar and heard a lot of that!
But millions of people believe that someone who died 2000 years ago and promised to return “Immediately” will be back soon to kill 1/3 of the population on earth etc… That is crazier in reality that believing that the govt killed a bunch of kids.
I know people who have moved here to the Dominican Republic because of the FEMA camps being set up in the USA. No one has ever seen one, oh there are videos of warehouse areas with new fences around them that don’t look any more like FEMA camps than any industrial park. But to be so sure of a fantasy that they move to a country where they cannot even speak the language and to carry on at the bar about how the USA has become a police state? Beyond my comprehension. But I owned the bar and heard a lot of that!
No, New Canaan is about thirty miles southwest of Newtown, where the Sandy Hook shootings occurred.
I just noticed that I got the link wrong over there, here is the correct one from Rassmussen from 2014:
Here’s a sinister conspiracy at work:
NaturalNews (a go-to source for conspiracy-mongering of all kinds) ran several articles about a Sandy Hook hoax in the wake of the shootings.
Mysteriously, one of those articles was apparently removed and replaced with this, which “explains” how the proprietor of the site got his mind radically readjusted after a six month “intense detoxification” program.
Now I don’t know about you, but I smell a government “re-education” program all over that announcement.
Chilling, it is. :dubious::eek::smack:
C’mon. This is “General Questions,” not “What ludicrous conspiracy can we invent?”.
And why is that? Hmmmm? Why is that forum name being suppressed?
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I suspect they know darn well Sandy Hook was real, but are so emotionally tied to their political position, that they treat anythi9ng that threatens their views as a attack.
IOW–Reality has a left-wing bias.
And AIDS was created by Israel for the same reason.
I hate that title. This implied equivalence - “Yéah, sure, some right-wingers believe in crazy conspiracies, but so do leftists!” Yeah, I know plenty of lefties who blame Bush for 9/11, or think the 2000 election was illegitimate. I also know plenty of righties who think that global warming is a huge leftist conspiracy, or think that Obama wasn’t born in the US.
What I don’t know of is any particularly prominent leftists who publicly state that Bush was responsible for 9/11 - neither in the media, nor in politics. But I can easily point to huge names in the right-wing mainstream who believe in insane conspiracies. Rush Limbaugh (take your pick) comes to mind immediately, as do Joe Arpaio (birther), Louie Gohmert (birther), Lindsey Graham (Benghazi), Jim Inhofe (AGW-denialist and anti-vax), and most of those are at the national level - at the local level, you might find some nutty dems, but you’ll find a TON of really batshit crazy pubs.
On topic: meh. There’s a certain line of thinking to conspiracy theories, and once you follow that train, there’s really no going back. See one false flag operation based on spurious evidence, you start to see everything as a false flag operation. I kinda wish my friend’s posts weren’t in German, so I could straight-up copy them here, but they really do illustrate the insanity of this thought process all too well. You can’t trust anything the media says ever; everything is controlled propaganda. Everything is controlled by a handful of large families who have the end goal of dividing and conquering the world. I mean, christ, these people are claiming that the fact that they found the guy’s ID in the getaway car is proof positive that it’s a false flag. As if you’ve never made a mistake in a stressful situation. Never mind that we have actual audio logs of the brothers admitting to the attack. I guess that must be fake.
And the Sandy Hook conspiracies are really just more of the same. Once you train yourself, you can see conspiracies in every single global event, terror attack, or massacre. It’s a serious flaw in human reasoning, and it’s downright trivial to abuse these same mental gymnastics (denying evidence as tainted, propping up alternative explanations with no good evidence, excusing lack of evidence by claiming that they would have hidden it, claiming the lack of evidence as proof of the conspiracy itself, dismissing evidence as falsified for being “too convenient”, etc.) to prove that the moon does not exist.
Although it really is worth noting that it takes a special kind of jerk to claim that the Sandy Hook shooting never happened. It makes a complete farce of the suffering of those involved.
I certainly want chuckling at the event, but at the fact a grown man could believe it was an inside job.
The first place I saw it was on Facebook! :eek: I’m really surprised that this didn’t cause problems for her at work (she’s a home health nurse :smack:) or with her ex-husband, with whom she has minor children. Maybe it did and she never told me about it; we know each other from a meetup, and during the time that she was posting these things, she had some other things going on in her life and didn’t come to any, at least not the same ones I was at. Had she shown up, I would have told me that she needs to be careful what she posts on Facebook, etc. about this, and some other things too.
This woman also posted a meme stating that public school teachers can take girls to get abortions during the school day without their parents’ knowledge or consent. Um, really?
There are some really goofy Ebola conspiracies too. One in particular made me want to take a chlorine shower after I saw what I did on You Tube.
Oh Sweet Jesus! There are SO MANY people (not only was my late father was one of them, but my step-mother’s new husband even publishes a website dedicated to “uncovering” these nefarious intrigues!) for whom EVERTHING is a lurid and melodramatic conspiracy inflicted on the senseless public sheep by our sinister government and its One-World-Order lackeys. (Or wait, I think the government is actually the lackey of the One-World-Orderers, but either way…) Not only was 9/11 a plan by our fearless leaders contrived and flawlessly executed to remove from us our cherished freedoms and civil rights, but so was Sandy Hook, the Oklahoma City bombing, the Viet Nam war and the lunar landing(!), among many, many others.
I once asked my…step-step-father?.. after seeing a copy of his latest book exposing a multitude of these shameless plots, if EVERYTHING was a conspiracy. He answered that, “Almost everything we have ever been taught is a lie. Except the Bible.” “What about,” I asked, “say, Marie Curie’s discovery of radiation?” (It was the most obscure “lie” I could think of off the top of my head.) In 5,000 words or less he informed me that radiation was not “discovered” by Madame Curie, it was “invented” by the government and “assigned” to her to disseminate.
So I ask you, heathen skeptics, who do you believe more? Your own common sense? Or the evil collaborators hiding in the hedges?
If you have to deal with multiple conspiracies, consult [del]The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy :p[/del] RationalWiki. With the only caveat that it is so snarky that I do recommend checking mostly the cites that are usually really good (although some CTs deserve that snark) .
For more serious reports and sources check the Skeptic’s Dictionary:
This.
I’ve only heard the Sandy Hook hoax story from one other source and that individual has probably got his entire house wrapped with aluminum foil to keep the government mind control rays from working. Pure nutjob.
Correction: I would have told HER…
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I’m a conspiracy nut and I’ll admit it.
Ok, let me explain. I’m not saying I really think things like aliens on the moon or Nazi bases in Antarctica are true, I just find them to be funny stories I like to follow. No different than being a Star Wars fan.
I also think I’m enough of a scientific person to know when some things are 1. True, 2. some things COULD be true or portions are true 3. Are not true but cover up other things and 4. Not true and just a joke. I also know enough about history to know that history books leave out alot of information. For example;
- True - I believe Pearl Harbor was a setup to get America into WW2. I believe the government spread false rumours thru the media to get the US to invade Iraq.
- Might be true - cryptozoology. I think there may have been some throwback animals like living dinosaurs that were alive way past when they were thought to be extinct.
- Not true but cover up other things - 9-11, It happened just like we saw. However what is covered up is all the rescuers like the firemen were secretly grabbing valuables.
- Not true and a joke - Aliens - Earth is too far from any other planets to make this feasible so any UFO sightings need to be looked at as either aircraft or natural phenomenon. And no, aliens did not build the pyramids and no alien ships are at Area 51.
I should add another category of conspiracies I just dont know about like the Kennedy assassination.
It doesnt help that their have been real conspiracy’s that turned out to be true (Google it yourself for several sites) so it makes one wonder “what/who can you trust”?
No parent ever saw their children’s bodies.