in what order does it come?
[ul][li]god > belief[/li][li]belief > god[/ul][/li]
where belief is: belief a mental attitude of acceptance or assent toward a proposition without the full intellectual knowledge required to guarantee its truth. Believing is either an intellectual judgment or, as the 18th-century Scottish Skeptic David Hume maintained, a special sort of feeling with overtones that differ from those of disbelief. Beliefs have been distinguished according to their degree of certainty: a surmise or suspicion, an opinion, or a conviction. Belief becomes knowledge only when the truth of a proposition becomes evident to the believer. Belief in someone or something is basically different from belief that a proposition is true.
so accually i, or anyone else for that matter, have no chance at all to be god. for we cant belief in anything that we know to be true. otherwise the list would be like this:
[ul][li]god > knowledge[/li][li]knowledge > god[/ul][/li]
that would be strange because following the logic that knowledge is truth,
[ul][li]god must be a figment of mans imagination[/li][li]man created god[/li][li]man is god.[/ul][/li]
so why do people believe in things that dont exist, is it some failure to distinguish between fantasy and reality?
Well, speaking for myself, I enjoy the psychotic rush of being a hapless idiot(i.e., theist). It’s the same reason I have an overpowering fetish for men’s armpits, really. The dank putrid odor of a hairy pit positively inspires me. When I sniff at them, sometimes surreptitiously, punctuated among my ammoniatic gasps are loud fetal primal screams both for mercy and for more.
Stop! But don’t stop! You see what I mean.
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
Well, I would begin by working on my punctuation and grammar. If English were not my primary language, I would launch into an intensive study of its syntax and semantics. Then I would work on how to formulate cogent arguments, based on generally recognized symbologies, and present them in the format of premise following premise.
Anyway, that’s not a cure, but it’ll get you started.
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
we have been through that before libertarian. but i guess you werent a speaker in that tread. being as linguistic as you are, i belive you are capable of finding the thread if it suits your interest to do so.
one, do not assume it as knowledge, for it can not be. it is only your belief.
i have come to the conclusion that every sod that dwells on the spelling and grammar errors of another being not a native of a language is a narrow minded “heimskingi” (heimskur), as we call it here in iceland.
bj0rn - language is a tool, grammar is an instrument and spelling is the notes. by only using the tool you can make yourself understandable. spelling and grammar make you seem intelligent.
Errors I don’t mind. I make them myself. But do you have any idea how hard it is to follow an idea if the author’s syntax is incomprehensible? It is likely that you can capitalize “I”, look up the spelling of words, and use only the vocabulary which you are sure you understand.
I, for one, have no idea what point you were making in your OP, other than that people who believe in God are stupid. And I stand as a living counter-example to your theory, rendering it patently false.
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
No, Libertarian, you have completely misunderstood bj0rn’s point. Look at the awkward phrasing and lack of capitalization in the OP; he’s actually saying that atheists are stupid, by providing a sly example. Why…why…I think I’m offended!
(bj0rn, I have no real beef with you, but if you continue to use bad grammar and capitalization you’re going to get teased, at the very least. There are foreigners on this board who write better than most English-speakers; you might do well to imitate them.)
that was a question you made, not a statement. and i declare that question invalid in the context provided. because if i answer it “yes” i am really saying that i believe what i said not to be knowledge, and if i answer it “no” i get the same results and i end up looking stupid at the same time.
so its a good question you made, but not a valid one.
did you read the comic? did you read the questions i asked? do people realize that god only exists because of their belief? i am not saying that everybody that believe in god are stupid and definetely not that atheists are stupid(where did i say that?). i am simply wondering if people realize that knowledge and belief is not the same thing.
It is a remarkable attribute of natural selection that any question an atheist asks is a reasonable inquiry, whereas any question a theist asks is invalid.
Well, if we didn’t we’d be stupid.
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
Na, na, Lib, don’t get pissy. You’re using an inductive argument here, and I don’t think bj0rn is a good person to generalize the behavior of anybody from. I didn’t spend all that time on the atheist religion thread just to have you continue to make little snipes at atheism. I don’t know how much you’ll get out of a discussion with bj0rn, anyhow; reading his posts just makes my head hurt.
“It’s like I always said…there’s nothing an agnostic can’t do if he really doesn’t know whether he believes in anything or not” --Monty Python, “The Meaning of Life”
