Scott Walker recall takes an unexpected turn.

Just the environmental stuff alone should get him impeached, not just recalled.

The $2 billion in tax breaks are momumentally stupid. Millionaire Senator Ron Johnson will personally receive over $600,000 from them.

Really? Because I thought Walker limiting union’s collective bargaining rights was what sparked the recall to begin with. You know, the thing which seems to have been completely forgotten about by Democrats?

Read the last three pages of this thread. Yes, the collective bargaining thing ignited the biggest protests, but in chronology that was about the third or fourth thing (out of at least a dozen) he did that riled people up. The Fitzwalker heavy-handedness in the matter really stirred the pot. The lies, the cronyism, and the rest of it, kept the kettle boiling.

The recent spate of dirty ads (smear anti-Barrett ad with a dead baby) and the phone sabotage on Thursday give indications that the Walker campaign feel some desperation.

"Stepp said municipal officials and others affected by the rule told the agency that implementing the tougher statewide standard would be too expensive during this difficult economic period. Some communities estimated they would have to raise sewage treatment rates by as much as $900 per customer per year.

“Governor Scott Walker’s budget recognizes that this is not the time to force communities to take out very substantial loans to upgrade wastewater treatment plants. They can’t afford these investments, nor can their ratepayers, your constituents,” Stepp told the committee.

Read more: Walker withdraws effort to repeal phosphorus rule, now backs delay
That bad man, looking out for the taxpayers.
Why do we need more costly controls? The blue green algae was a problem in the 70s, but changes to consumer detergents fixed that. Or was that before your time?

Its not desperation, its the fact that they have money to burn. And they will, most likely, win. Because that’s the America we live in.

So, these things are totally unnecessary, then? Only fools and/or liars say otherwise? Nobody with any scientific credentials, or at least none to compare with Gov Walker’s encyclopedic command of the subject?

By any chance, would these measures impact certain sterling members of the business community? Like, say, the Koch Brothers, who’s forthright support for raping the environment for money is the stuff of legend? I emphasize, I’m totally guessing on that one, I really have no idea. Which is why I turn to an expert on the subject: you.

What about this, from the Wisconsin Dept of Health Services?

http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/news/pressreleases/2011/071411.htm

Must be great for tourism, huh? “Come to Wisconsin, swim in our pristine waters, and puke yer guts out!”

And these people?

http://www.wisconsinrivers.org/bad-water-is-bad-for-business

Gosh, sure doesn’t look like the problem has disappeared. But Gov Walker says the problem is fixed, and that’s good enough for you? Or is it that clean water is just too expensive?

Can you drink money,** Rusty**?

BS. If Walker hadn’t limited union’s collective bargaining rights, there would be no recall. Dems banked on being able to oust Walker on that issue alone. When it became apparent the public supported Walker’s attempt at limiting the power of unions, Dems tried attacking Walker on issues unrelated to the reason for the recall.

What desperation? Every independent poll has Walker up by at least five, with the latest Marquette poll giving him a 7 point lead. I don’t see why Walker would be feeling “desperate”. Enlighten me please.

Sorry to butt in, but is this news to you all?

Integrity: The Child Scott Walker Left Behind

In other words, “voters are stupid and are easily bought”. Does that also hold true if they vote for the person you want them to vote for and that person just so happens to outspend his or her opponent?

From wi.gov"Are blue-green algae blooms a new problem?
No. Fossil evidence suggests that blue-green algae have been around for millions of years. Scientists have recorded blue-green algae blooms dating back to the 12th century and they have documented the toxic effects to livestock for more than 100 years. "

Updated: Verified - Woman Denies Walker Fathered Baby - MJS Columnist Daniel Bice

Let’s leave it alone.

Who knows why Walker was kicked out of Marquette? It’s irrelevant.

I say his ad with the dead baby is reprehensible.

A much respected local Milwaukee historian.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/an-autocratic-king-scott-damaged-state-vm5j9m0-156490065.html

That’s a fair point. I don’t deny unions were instrumental in the formation of what we have today.

But I believe the pendulum has swung too far the other way. I don’t mind unions fighting employer abuse by legitimate means. When they use intimidation and threats they go too far. Call replacement workers “scabs” all you want. But throwing eggs on their cars goes too far. Throwing bricks and slashing tires is right out.

I’m not a Wisconsin resident, but if I were, a couple of those points strike me as positives.

Wow.

Well, that one oughta do it. When a much respected author writes that, there’s just no hope left for the target. Surely the voters will now rise up in righteous indignation.

Well, guys and gals, with just one day to go to D-Day, I thought I’d take the time to post the latest polls (because I do love polls).

First, the Angus-Reid Poll which has Walker leading Barret 53% - 47%. Then the PPP Poll which has Walker leading Barret 50% - 47%. But about that PPP poll…

So when a Dem polling firm wants to make a poll look like a race is “tightening” for their preferred candidate, what do they do? They leave out the third party guy stealing a disproportionate number of votes from Tom Barrett. But Trivedi is in the race; he will be on the ballot on Tuesday. So not only does the PPP poll not reflect the ballot accurately based on the options it gave, one could suggest is is willfully inaccurate to serve a purpose.
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So we’ll just say Walker leads that one 50% - 45%. Now combined with the latest Reason (Walker leads 50% - 42%) and Marquette (Walker leads 52% - 45%) polls, I say that things are looking pretty darn good for Scott Walker, barring some unforeseen event.

Too bad those weren’t the things Walker outlawed. There was no outlawing illegimate means. There was flat out removal of the ability to collectively bargain for pay. The most basic thing a union does. He’s stated his entire goal is to completely abolish the union. Not make them play nice, abolish them.

And it seems that Wisconsinites are okay with this. I just hope they don’t expect us to all come running to their aid when they need a second civil rights revolution.

This isn’t a win for Republicans, but a loss for all of Wisconsin. I wish this were what OMG wanted it to be, just a contest between his side and ours. But it’s not. This was an argument of fantasy versus reality, and fantasy seems to have won.

We’ve already seen what a world without unions is like, and it ain’t pretty.

If (when) Scott Walker wins, it’ll be because fantasy lost and reality won. If your entire argument for why we need unions today hinges on what they did in the early 20th century, then I think it’s safe to say that unions really aren’t necessary today.

Ah, good, they are unnecessary, then? Because the terrible practices that made them needful are gone, yes? And the greed that made them so, that has been expunged from our nation, the men who own our country are pure now, and unsullied by avarice. Yes. Of course. Our recent history is clear testimony to their wisdom and generosity.

But still no unicorns? I do so love unicorns in my fairy tales.