Well, we now know who was in the YouTube video posted above.
Sadly, even less comforting than the reality of Governor Walker is the idea of Governor Kleefish.
Naw, I’m much better looking them him. Unlike him, I can see the coming victories and not focus on a defeat. If only Walker had lost, then I could go back to detesting Coach Bielema more than any other Wisconsinite.
I bow before your grace and humility in the face of defeat.
As well you should. I can’t wait to be equally gracious in victory in November.
One of those rare moments where I actually lol’ed instead of just typing lol.
I’m glad I could bring a laugh and hopefully a smile.
Indeed so, sir. Indeed so.
Didn’t you say something once about your Dad’s office in his home country? I assumed that meant that he had a white-collar job.
If he had a white-collar job, that’s very different than someone who gets here and slings a hammer.
If I’m mixing that up, I apologize, I hope this won’t color your decision when it comes time to review my application as your personal biographer.
I honestly don’t think you’re an idiot. You’re misinformed and because you have a set of incorrect facts that are reinforced by media and your social circles, you are unable to draw reasonable conclusions from them.
If I believed what you do, I’d be upset and angry too.
Your asking the question the wrong way. It shouldn’t be “Why should the public sector union employees get better benefits and wages* than we do?” It should instead by “Why don’t I get as good benefits and wages as public sector union employees employees?” Over the last 20+ years unions have weakened and employers have been able to give their employees the shaft. Its gone on so long that Employees now assume their serfdom is the status quo and justified, and are jealous because union workers aren’t getting shafted as much as they are.
*regarding wages I’d like to see a cite that public employees get higher wages than private ones for similar education and responsibilities.
No problem, but my dad was NOT a professional when he came here. I have spoken often about growing up very poor. My dad came here with little more than the clothes he was wearing.
Well, good on him. I guess you do have something in common with a lot of the poor Mexicans who come here.
And I certainly hope that they have the same opportunity that your family enjoyed. You can help insure that by voting Dem. ![]()
I never said they are marginal, in fact I’d like you to point out where I said that.
What I said was, employees of State governments in non-union States still have very strong benefit packages. The difference is when WV needed to increase its employee contribution rate to the pension plan from say, 3% to 4.5%, they were able to do so without much problem.
In Wisconsin to get them to pay more than 1% Walker had to essentially fight 40,000+ idiots wanting to physically tear up the State Capitol, stage work stoppages and etc.
Public sector wages are usually competitive, sometimes they exceed private sector if you dollar-cost account for their benefits. But I don’t think most people generally think public sector employees make more than private sector in their paycheck, the whole appeal of public sector jobs is that you get really nice benefits and vacation time in exchange for somewhat less take home pay.
The simple truth of the matter is you can’t force employers to pay more than you’re worth. No one is getting shafted, you just feel your labor is worth more than the market says it is. Countries that try to force employers to pay labor more than its worth typically end up having lots of trouble because companies will just start building factories overseas or in a neighboring country.
What I’d like to know is why people keep talking about stuff like company stores, labor violence and etc.
These were public sector unions, not unions representing people who worked for Andrew Carnegie or John Rockefeller. It seems like you guys just keep bringing up ways in which corporations abuse employees and why unions are so great, and just blatantly ignore anyone who mentions the fact that Walker went after public sector unions, period. You guys are blathering on about an irrelevancy.
IIRC, the unions in Wisconsin had already agreed to a tough financial package. Where they balked was when he put the poison cherry on top of the turd sundae, revoking their collective bargaining rights. You may correct my misunderstanding at your leisure.
I’d like a cite for any of this.
Don’t forget hours: at all but the executive level, public employees get either overtime or comp time for every hour over 40. In the private sector, extra hours are part of the deal for mid- to upper-level employees. My wife works way fewer hours than her private-sector peers.
On the contrary. What I see from the Democrats is a series of programs seemingly designed to increase dependence on government largess and handouts. I see lots of “Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day,” and very little “Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.”