[QUOTE=Jayn_Newell]
And that’s about all I’m going to say, as by this point it’s clear that Carol Stream is as dense as a brick, complete with the empty space in the middle.
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Oh, we all knew that going in. It’s just what with the semester ending, and the writers strike and all, there isn’t that much going on, you know? And there’s only so much refreshing Facebook I can stand.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
Nobody is being “infringed.” Stores have the right to ask for ID for certain purchase. You have the right to refuse to show it to them. And they have a right to refuse the sale.
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If it were only that easy. That would actually be fair. Instead, they hide behind the government, which restricts both the seller and the buyer. No good can come of that.
[QUOTE=WF Tomba]
I don’t really think anyone’s rights are being trampled on here. I was just suggesting the sort of tack that might be taken by one side in this argument if that side had any interest in being enlightening rather than just annoying.
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I gotcha. I’m not gonna hold my breath waiting for enlightenment from said side; although, given Carol’s apparent maturity level, that might well be the next tactic.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
If it were only that easy. That would actually be fair.
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Buh?? That’s the way things are now. 
I guess she means if there was no government regulation and businesses could decide not to sell to minors on their own, which would not happen, which is I think her point. I think.
Well, you know, there’s always other sites you can waste your time on, like the Dope. Oh wait… 
I’ll probably keep reading, but banging my head against a brick wall was never really my thing. Besides, it’s late and I just got out of a tedious WoW raid. It’s time for my brain to rest a little.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
If it were only that easy. That would actually be fair. Instead, they hide behind the government, which restricts both the seller and the buyer. No good can come of that.
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Why don’t we just abolish all government age restrictions and let elementary schools serve whiskey in the cafeteria? Would that be more fair? Pull the beet out of your ass before it gets lost.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
Buh?? That’s the way things are now.
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Actually, no, they are most certainly NOT. Stores should be able to sell cigarettes to whomever wants them, but they cannot.
[QUOTE=Jayn_Newell]
I’ll probably keep reading, but banging my head against a brick wall was never really my thing. Besides, it’s late and I just got out of a tedious WoW raid. It’s time for my brain to rest a little.
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Well, you know the thing about banging your head against a wall. It feels so good when you stop.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
Stores should be able to sell cigarettes to whomever wants them, but they cannot.
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So, you have no problem with 12- and 13-year-olds smoking?
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
Actually, no, they are most certainly NOT. Stores should be able to sell cigarettes to whomever wants them, but they cannot.
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Why, what is gained by allowing ten year old Johnnie get hooked on the cancer sticks?
[QUOTE=alphaboi867]
Why don’t we just abolish all government age restrictions and let elementary schools serve whiskey in the cafeteria? Would that be more fair?
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You’ve got it mostly right. There shouldn’t be any government age restictions on anything.
Because, as we all know, 6 year olds are perfectly qualified to drive.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
So, you have no problem with 12- and 13-year-olds smoking?
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It’s not good, but at the same time, it’s not for the government to control.
Inalienable rights, and all.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
You’ve got it mostly right. There shouldn’t be any government age restictions on anything.
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So you’re in favour of child pornography and prostitution? What about the death penalty for kindergardeners?
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
Inalienable rights, and all.
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:smack: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Joe Camel. How stupid of me.
[QUOTE=Inner Stickler]
I guess she means if there was no government regulation and businesses could decide not to sell to minors on their own, which would not happen, which is I think her point. I think.
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Well, we had that system for the past several decades. Strangely enough, it didn’t work very well. Or at all. So the “sheeple” rose up against generations of tradition and billions of dollars of persuasive propaganda and forced the businesses to stop selling dangerous and addictive substances to minors. Baaaa, indeed.
And Carol, please provide us with an example of a government that you would consider to not be a “nanny state”. Just so we can see what sort of ideal you aspire to.
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
I really don’t care, when they are infringing on everybody else to do so.
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How else are you going to find out someone’s age than by carding them, dipshit?
And how about booze-as someone said, are you cool with serving Crown Royal to a seven year old?
[QUOTE=alphaboi867]
So you’re in favour of child pornography and prostitution?
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Nice try. Those things involve force on another person, so no.
[QUOTE=Rhubarb]
Well, we had that system for the past several decades. Strangely enough, it didn’t work very well. Or at all. So the “sheeple” rose up against generations of tradition and billions of dollars of persuasive propaganda and forced the businesses to stop selling dangerous and addictive substances to minors. Baaaa, indeed.
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You even underlined the problem, but you still don’t see.