Scum and villainy: Republicans already throwing Palin under the bus.

This basically sums up my feelings and reasons for voting Dem.

If the Republican party would return to the core values it espouses, protect our civil liberties, quit pandering to religious zealots who are determined to foist their personal values on an entire nation and practice the fiscal responsibility they claim to hold so dear, I’d be the first in line to throw my support behind them.

I’ll wait and see if this happens any time soon.

I specifically heard a Republican talk radio host yesterday say, “McCain ran a very clean and honorable campaign. There was nothing he could have done differently. This election was a referendum on Bush.”

This suggests to me that he, at least, was not interested in self-analysis, and probably expects the next Republican campaign to be run the same way. Naturally, I expect the actual campaign managers to study Obama’s campaign very carefully, but it’s still amusing.

Didn’t Eddie Izzard say, on election night, that he had contributed to the campaign monetarily? While I did vote for Obama, that made me wince. As he is not an American citizen, that was an illegal campaign contribution. I worry there very well may have been more fuckups like that and they’ll all be dragged out four years from now.

I’ve overestimated the ethics of Republicans again. That should show me to consider the Republicans they invite to talk on NPR as indicative of the mainstream.

So, you’re saying they need to be Democrats? :wink:

Maybe, but the Democrats don’t respect the 2nd Amendment.

No, because as Democrats they’d be for expansion of social welfare programs and want to ban guns. I’ll leave you to guess which of those annoys me.

There’s no particular reason they must be so. Part of Obama’s campaign was to explicitly say, “I’m not after your guns.”

Actually, non-citizens can donate, as long as they are have attained permanent resident status. I have no idea what Izzard’s status is, but it’s not true that ONLY citizens can donate.

The donation pages of John McCain and Barack Obama’s campaign websites have the following sentences as a required qualification for donating:

He’s said very very little. And yet on his own website:

Oh, just keep the fucking things! Jeebus, but I’m sick of listening you guys piss and moan about your fetish objects! The blue helmets are not coming, the black helicopters are not coming. Just keep 'em out of the hands of children and morons, please? Beyond that, fuck 'em, we don’t care any more.

I’m disappointed in you. Here of all places we should know the difference between ignorance and stupidity.

That’s not to say she isn’t also stupid as well as ignorant, mind…

For a woman of her age and background not to know such things can only be attributed to stupidity–by which I mean willful and arrogant ignorance born of a conviction that only the verities of her youth and personal experience are of any moment.

Eddie Izzard is a permanent resident (green card holder) and can donate to any US campaign as long as he’s in the US at the time.

Otherwise my donation woulda been illegal too!

Yeah I’m a Republican but I gotta play devil’s advocate here. If Palin claimed to be good on foreign policy, knowledge of basic geography is step #1.

:confused:

How are you playing devil’s advocate, exactly?

In her defense, she does seem to know where Russia is.

The federal budget was balanced during the Clinton administration; how much more fiscally conservative do you want?

The trouble is the republicans are not fiscally conservative. They spend and spend, racking up huge amounts of debt. If they would return to financial responsibility, and honorable-HandsOff-SmallGoverment-conservatism, I’d vote for them. But the only reason they have even a reputation for being fiscally conservative is because they attack every other party for not being fiscally conservative.

I think the GOP establishment knows that: 1)Palin at the top of a future ticket would be a 1964-scale debacle and 2)the GOP would have a real “PUMA* schism” if Palin were denied the nomination. The only way out of that dilemma is to kneecap her now and hope the anger blows over before the next election cycle.

(though they might use a different acronymn, such as “Movin’ Out, Only Sarah Excites” (MOOSE))