In the ‘liberal, not stupid’ thread, Scylla has this to say:
'Yeah, that’s right. No liberal wingnut would actually ever hurt anybody. It’s not like any of them would ever shoot John Lennon, or mail letter bombs from their cabin.
Not to mention the greatest liberal flower child of them, good ole Charlie Manson and his loving family.
Yeah, those liberal wingnuts are such an improvement.’
Scylla, I’ve seen you post some deliberately inflammatory things during my time here, and then shrug them off with a ‘I wuz only kidding, cantcha take a joke.’
I’ve never bothered to respond, but when you classify Mark Chapman, The Unabomber, and Charles Manson as ‘liberal wingnuts,’ well,
that takes the proverbial cake.
You, sir, are a disgusting troll, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Here’s the link, if you’re into that sort of thing.
I’m confused – are you insulted on behalf of the three individuals mentioned, or on behalf of liberal wingnuts? I don’t know about Mark Chapman or Charles Manson, but the Unabomber was pretty much the textbook definition of a liberal wingnut. Very much left wing (anarchist/luddite), very much out to lunch. His politics factored heavily into his bombing campaign.
I mean, it’s a pretty stupid thing to say, but in the context of that very stupid thread, it’s hardly remarkable.
Well, ignoring their infamous acts for a moment, could Mark Chapman, the Unabomber or Charles Manson be classified as “on the loony side of leftist”, “on the crazy side of conservative” or “on the madcap side of moderate”, politically?
Sure he was being deliberately provocative. That doesn’t mean he was trolling.
To my mind (not having read the thread because there was no link included in the OP - how the fuck are we supposed to figure out what you’re fuming about without a damned link? You want us to work for our peanut and search for the “liberal not stupid thread”?) Scylla was using a provocative example to illustrate the fallacy of his opposition’s position. That’s not trolling, that’s making a point.
And of course, I notice too late that a Giraffe has already provided the link to the original crime. Doesn’t let the OP off the hook, though. Put a link in your rant, people!
A matter of semantics. Those three characters espoused or followed liberal worldviews, and they were nuts. I don’t see anything wrong with Scylla’s characterization.
As Wring pointed out so amusingly, there’re nuts all over the place. Liberals are hardly free of having crazies in their midst.
Oh, I should point out that Scylla was directly responding to AceOspades comment, “The Conservative wingnuts blowup Federal buildings and shoot abortion doctors, where ours just burn down empty houses and release lab rats”. Personally, I find that to be far more insulting, as it implies that only conservatives become violent and dangerous.
In this election cycle, she has donated to the following candidates/political groups:
Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA) and his PAC: $7,600
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte: $8,700
Tom Daschle’s PAC: $10,000
David Scott (D-Candidate in GA’s new 13th CD): $1,000
Progressive Majority PAC [I don’t remember who runs it]: $5,000
Erskine Bowles (D-NC Senate Candidate): $500, which was returned
NARAL: $5,000
What Spoofe said. Mine were rebuttal examples, and you’ll notice in the post that I cited what I was rebutting.
I consider essvee’s failure to notice or remarkable ability to completely ignore this fact and take issue with my post on this basis to show a truly cosmic level of stupidity and blindness.
And now (and thank you for setting the stage essvee) let me requalify my statements re: liberalism.
I had stated earlier in that thread that liberalism seems to attract more than it’s share of the stupid, naive, and self-righteous people than conservatism.
Ladies and gentleman I present you with essvee.
My case rests.
I don’t consider this to be a knock on liberals or liberalism in general. I’m just mentioning the fact that liberalism carries its particular burdens. I also mentioned in that thread that conservatism seems to attract, the haters, the self-centered, and the rabid fundamentalists. Just a personal observation, but a valid one, I think. Both sides have what I term as “wingnuts.”
I’ll even go a step further and say that liberalism is the way to go if you are an exceedingly gifted and exceptional person. I know a few.
Anyway essvee your efforts are akin to the amorous ant endeavoring up the cow’s leg all the while assuring her that he’ll be gentle**.
In the final analysis you’re just another chucklehead.
I thought it was a fair exchange (although I question the inclusion of Manson as he was attempting to start a race riot, and I’m not quite sure about Chapmen’s politics, but he was indeed a wingnut).
esvee you’re in over head. I think you should quietly slink away.
Meh. I can’t see how Chapman, Ted K, or Manson can realistically be viewed as espousing liberal politics. There’s a world of difference between these guys and Tim McVeigh.
I still think it was a trollish post and that Scylla is a self-congratulatory jerk.