The reason I changed it from the original formatting in post 81 is because I wanted it to be clearly obvious which lines displayed a taken pick and which lines did not. In post 81, you couldn’t even tell at a glance what pick was currently on-the-clock.
The main issue is the variable-length descriptions of the picks. If they’re all roughly the same (narrow) width, it makes it easier to review the draft with a glance instead of having to carefully parse each line.
Note: You forgot to add Omni’s 6th round pick.
EDIT: See this post from last year’s thread as an example. It’s identical to the formatting I applied (on purpose; I looked up last year’s formatting) except I stripped out the “[from owner]” trade notices, which don’t strike me as hugely relevant.
Beef (or anyone) is of course free to add them back in, but I feel it just makes the list harder to read. Maybe add them back in at the end of the draft in a final recap?
Oh, good. I was worried people were going to stop trading with me for winning every trade and clearly establishing myself as the eternal emperor of this league for generations to come.
I can absolutely see how you might see this trade as a win for Beef, especially if you just look at this year. Assuming Howard fits the new offense, he’s a safe pick. If Luck returns to form then Hilton is a safe bet, too. Miller and Davis are definitely not. But Miller was the equivalent of a top 8-10 back when Watson was healthy last year, and he did that as a fatass. Davis never got a chance to get going. If you think Davis will be a bust based on last year, yeah, this looks bad. I think he’s a stud, and he’s only 23.
If I overpaid, I was willing to do so to pick up the extra first round pick. And I moved up over a full round in doing so. That’s a big deal.
There is a trade calculator out there that I saw which says I lost this deal, though it calls it a slight win for Beef. But there are several others that say I won the trade. So, I won’t say you’re outright wrong here, but “really lopsided” doesn’t sound reasonable, to me. Hell, the Saquon trade was a much worse loss for me according to calculators. I vastly overpaid to get my guy in that case. Like, **dale **took my lunch money in that one. I should tell a school monitor, or something.
Lamar Miller is 27 and has never put together a 1100 yard season. Howard is 23 and has had 2, and their offense if going to be more dynamic this year. Houston drafted what they hope is Miller’s replacement in the 3rd round last year. Corey Davis had 375 yards in 11 games last year. TY has had 4 1000 yard seasons and has Luck back.
I mean, rationalize away, but age, upside and production all heavily favor Beef and the difference between 1.06 and 2.10 isn’t close to making it up. If it were 1.01 or 1.02 I might think otherwise. Miller is AT BEST the Titan’s version of Demarco Murray, who is now retired.
Alright, so I’m trying to enter the rosters/draft results on yahoo, but the teams must be finalized before I can do that. We actually have 2 people who still haven’t taken their invite to the new league, so I can’t finalize yet.
Overly Sentimental and Hamlet are the two who aren’t signed up yet.
I’m going to send out another set of invites now, please take them.
1100 is an odd number to choose as a benchmark. Miller did once run for 1099 yards, but you’re right. Miller has proven he can never run for 1100 yards. He’s never come close. On a serious note, Howard is a more accomplished runner, there’s no doubt about that. But Miller has put together four straight seasons of 1200 total yards, which is what matters. His replacement is coming off a serious foot injury, hasn’t been cleared to play yet, and wasn’t great when he did play.
I don’t understand this comparison. They aren’t the same type of player at all. I think you only mentioned Murray to insinuate Miller is close to retirement? But let’s go with this, since you brought it up.
Murray retired at 30. So if I get 3 more years of Miller, I’m happy. And that whole thing about Howard being in a more dynamic offense? It’s very possible he doesn’t fit that offense and falters. That has happened before… ironically, most recently when DeMarco Murray imploded under Chip Kelly.
I like Howard a lot, but if the downgrade from Howard to Miller (what… 15 points over a season?) gets me Davis and Moore for Hilton and whoever you can get with a late second, I think I did okay. Davis and Moore are both exceptional talents, to me. They rated very, very highly in my grades. In fact, Davis has my highest WR grade for an incoming rookie over the last three years, and Moore is second. That’s why I was so aggressive in grabbing the extra pick. I understand your grades might differ. I think I did okay.
I just accepted it. Should I just leave my team from the SDMB Dynasty 2018 league that, I’m guessing, simply updated the 2017 one, or will we just not be using that one?
The old league has our records and league history, so I’m going to see if I can leave it open in some sort of dormant state in case we ever want to look back.
I would’ve taken either Mayfield or Moore at this spot if either had been available. I did not think I’d have to trade up, though, to get either one of them.
Let me sum it up this way. I just finished my IRL Big Money Fantasy draft this past weekend. It’s in it’s 14th year and the scoring system is ridiculously biased towards running back (don’t ask), it’s a full-redraft league. In that draft Howard was the 11th RB off the board in the 2nd round right after Dalvin Cook and right before Davante Freeman. Lamar Miller went at the end of the 6th round.
ESPNs ADP (actual fantasy draft results, not projections) have Jordan Howard at 28, Lamar Miller at 57. Howard is right behind Joe Mixon and ironically TY Hilton on this list, so take that with a grain of salt.
Fantasy Pros has Howard as the 37th overall Dynasty player between Guice and Rashaad Penny. Miller is at 72. TY Hilton is 29, DJ Moore is 57 and Corey Davis is 32.
The downgrade from Howard to Miller is way more than you say it is in 2018 and Howard is also a much, much better option in Dynasty.
Okay, this should be an up to date list of kept players, draft picks, and available players. (You can see available players by searching the players tab for unowned players)
It was a lot of busywork and a little bit of a complicated situation processing the trades. It helps to conceptualize that when you do a pick-for-kept-player swap, you’re actually trading the keeper spot that the player was kept with rather than the player. It’s like the automatic last pick swap of trades thing.
3.03 should belong to RNATB. And 6.02 should be mine.
As for Howard vs Miller, I think the really important piece of that trade is TY Hilton. I don’t think that Andrew Luck is going to be the player he was, which will really hurt Hilton. In that way, I think it’s a pretty fair trade.
But man, Jules is definitely raising the bar for all of us.
Ok that’s good work beef thanks.
Can I just say that the yahoo product continues to confound me. They’ve gone crazy with this two factor authentication now and I guess I get it, but who has anything of value attached to a Yahoo account? Somebody gonna hack me and manage my fantasy team? Come on.
I should own the 1.11 pick thanks to the Royce Freeman trade.
And thank you. Stepping in and taking over commishionership is a fucking pain in the ass, so thanks for doing it.
As to the trade, I think Jordan Howard’s shelf life is very limited, as Hilton’s may be because much of his production is speed and Luck dependant. I do think Corey Davis has the chance to be a hhge difference maker in the NFL for a long time, but Im not a DJ Moore fan. All in all, it strikes me that Jules is swinging for the fences in his youth movement and Beef is willing to trade upside for shorter turn production. If I thought Davis and Moore would be the foundation for a high performance team in the future, I’d do the trade. I just dont think they are, and I’m unsure the risk that they won’t be studs outweighed the reward if they are.
Reaching here to get the guy I truly coveted. I would have understood if I couldn’t move up and take Moore, but missing out on Washington would have crushed me. I know his stock is a little lower by ADP because of his spot on Pittsburgh, but I think that spot matches his talent perfectly. I think he’s good enough that Juju might find himself seeing fewer and fewer targets with Antonio being the uber-WR and Washington being so exceptional on deep routes.