SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 14

We are in year 14 of this grand experiment and going strong. There were some big changes proposed last season that need to be voted on before we get started, so let’s get the important stuff out of the way and get to business.

League dates

Preseason begins: Thursday, Aug. 4th (Hall of Fame game)

Final roster cuts: 12:00p ET Monday, Aug. 29th

2022 Dynasty rookie draft begins: 12:01p ET Monday, Aug. 29th

NFL opening day: Thursday, Sept. 8th

2021 Final Results
  1. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)
  2. Moridwon (Hamlet)
  3. Nine Inch Neils (RNATB)
  4. HungryHungryHaruspex (Jules Andre)
  5. Peteys (PeteyPart2)
  6. No Use For A Name (Retrovertigo)
  7. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42)
  8. The Great Old Ones (Ol’Gaffer)
  9. Ides of Martz (Omniscient)
  10. JB’s Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey)
  11. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
  12. Overly Sentimental (Overly Sentimental)
Hall of Champions

2021 Champion: SenorBeef
2020 Champion: Jules Andre
2019 Champion: Hamlet
2018 Champion: Ellis Dee
2017 Champion: VarlosZ
2016 Champion: SenorBeef
2015 Champion: VarlosZ
2014 Champion: Stringer
2013 Champion: VarlosZ
2012 Champion: Hamlet
2011 Champion: SenorBeef
2010 Champion: Stringer
2009 Champion: Really Not All That Bright

Points Leaders by Year

(Including weeks 15-16)
2021: SenorBeef: 2016.78
2020: Jules: 2131.96
2019: Hamlet: 2190.75
2018: Hamlet: 2204.75
2017: RNATB: 2095.71
2016: Petey: 2018.97
2015: VarlosZ: 2183.64
2014: Stringer: 2177.27
2013: SenorBeef: 2132.81
2012: Stringer: 2095.83
2011: Stringer: 2229.75
2010: Stringer: 2167.03
2009: Hamlet: 2207.00

Draft Order

We’ve been kicking about changes to the draft order for a few seasons, but we appear to have finally locked down a consensus/majority. I couldn’t find an actual single post that outlined the proposal or tallied the votes, but Ellis laid out his thoughts very clearly HERE. From that post, I count at least 4 clear votes yes (Ellis, Jules, Retro, Gaffer), with another one or two implying yes (dale implied he was in with the consensus, and Justin initially voted no but added he would change if we reach consensus. With 4 yes votes and 1 implied yes, I counted his vote as an implied yes). Later in the thread everyone treated this as effectively approved, and that is about as good as we get around these parts. We pretty much need to consider this passed so we can get anywhere since we have an implied consensus.

This essentially simplifies our draft order to be in reverse order of standings from the season before (thank you!), and the winner of the consolation bowl will receive a boost to their FAAB budget for the following season. The original post said $10, which was agreed to by the votes, but then was later suggested to be $2 more than the last place team. We need to nail that part down.

The following draft order includes these trades from during the draft and season: 1, 2, 3

1.01. Overly Sentimental (Overly Sentimental)
1.02. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
1.03. JB’s Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey)
1.04. Ides of Martz (Omniscient)
1.05. The Great Old Ones (Ol’Gaffer)
1.06. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42)
1.07. No Use For A Name (Retrovertigo)
1.08. JB’s Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey) (via PeteyPart2)
1.09. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) (via Jules Andre)
1.10. Nine Inch Neils (RNATB)
1.11. Moridwon (Hamlet)
1.12. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)

2.01. Overly Sentimental (Overly Sentimental)
2.02. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
2.03. JB’s Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey)
2.04. Ides of Martz (Omniscient)
2.05. The Great Old Ones (Ol’Gaffer)
2.06. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42)
2.07. No Use For A Name (Retrovertigo)
2.08. Peteys (PeteyPart2)
2.09. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42) (via Jules Andre)
2.10. Nine Inch Neils (RNATB)
2.11. Moridwon (Hamlet)
2.12. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)

3.01. Overly Sentimental (Overly Sentimental)
3.02. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
3.03. JB’s Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey)
3.04. Ides of Martz (Omniscient)
3.05. The Great Old Ones (Ol’Gaffer)
3.06. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42)
3.07. No Use For A Name (Retrovertigo)
3.08. Peteys (PeteyPart2)
3.09. HungryHungryHaruspex (Jules Andre)
3.10. Nine Inch Neils (RNATB)
3.11. Moridwon (Hamlet)
3.12. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)

(So on according to cuts)

NOTES:
HungryHungryHaruspex gets Ellis Dee’s last pick.
HungryHungryHaruspex gets Warner’s Brother’s’ last pick.
Peteys gets JB’s Gusterrhoids’ last pick.

This is your heads up that if you are involved in those trades to make sure to cut enough players so that your last pick isn’t a 1st or 2nd.

Previous Threads

Year 13
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10 (and Archive of other threads)

We had a lot of back and forth about various rules changes, but we struggled mightily to get votes from everyone and tally those votes in official ways. From last year’s proposals:

• The motion to remove the consolation bowl incentive “PASSED” to remove the draft pick incentive and instead replace it with a FAAB incentive. This is reflected in the default draft order above, and there is a secondary proposal we must vote on listed below.
• The motion to remove kickers FAILED
• The “motion” to change the trade deadline was never brought to a vote
• The motion to change to a Superflex league was never officially brought to a vote. The initial response was about 50/50 to change to a Superflex league with the lead in time being 3 seasons before the change goes into effect. But only half the league voted.

We need to officially get a vote on those lingering issues that didn’t actually get resolved, along with votes on the following proposals which were introduced during the season last year:

• Make it a requirement that all accepted trades are publicly posted to allow everyone to submit bids to beat the accepted offer
• Reseeding the standings for the playoffs
• Letting the #1 seed choose their playoff opponent

Add:
• Trade deadline: Latest date allowed by Yahoo? Default date set by Yahoo? Week 1 of the playoffs? No deadline ever? (We have always done the latest date allowable by Yahoo, and this wasn’t an official proposal to be changed. However, it has come up in past seasons and we have never nailed down an actual rule. Every year, SenorBeef fixes the issue a week or two before it comes up by necessity. It would be nice to absolve him of having to make a unilateral decision every season)
• The Consolation Bowl FAAB benefit: $2 more than the last place team, or $10?
• Superflex: Should we add a Superflex starting spot 3 seasons from now?

And we should really make an effort to get everyone to vote and post their votes so there isn’t any guess work. The consolation bowl change was frankly a disaster with how many seasons it took and how wishywashy the votes and opinions were. By that, I mean that it should not take interpretation to determine if someone who posts in response to a proposal is voting yes or no.

With that mess out of the way, let’s begin the new season! Feel free to add a State of the Franchise post about your team, discuss your division mates, or collectively bemoan that we still have another month and a half of SenorBeef being the reigning champion before something new happens.

Super flex league with two quarterbacks is a strong no vote from me. I’ve been trying to get one single quarterback for several years now; switching to needing two quarterbacks in 3 years just doesn’t work for me.

Publicly posting trades so everyone gets a chance to offer more, I don’t have an opinion on. I barely even remember the issue being brought up. Someone who feels strongly want to pitch a case?

Reseeding the standings for the playoffs, again I don’t currently have strong feelings, pitches welcome.

Letting the number one seed choose their opponent I’m leaning toward no but could be convinced.

For the trade deadline I kind of think I would vote for no deadline ever. I can totally see valid reasons for people to want and need to trade during the playoffs. I also don’t see a reason I would object to such trades. It’s not like regular fantasy where you get a clean slate each year; whatever trade you make will impact your team the following season regardless when you make it.

Consolation bowl prize I guess I vote for slightly more than last place finisher just so that it scales if the league size changes. It’s minutia either way.

Old links don’t work, remember. Pretty sure I set up a post of links that do work for the old threads in last year’s thread. We will want to dig up a link to that post I made, and have a mod edit it into the archives at the top of the OP.

Also, after thinking about it for many seconds, if we want to reseed for the playoffs, then I do think it makes sense to let the #1 seed choose their opponent. That way we don’t need to come up with the platonic ideal of perfectly objective standards. What if a bad team made great trades late and now is looking like a freight train heading into the playoffs? An objective standard probably puts them as the worst seed, while whoever is the actual #1 seed would see that and properly rate them #2. Seems a better, more self-correcting system.

Thanks Jules for getting the thread going.

Hey everybody. Champ here doing champ things.

I’m not going to makes any votes yet, just give some thoughts on some of the proposals.

The best part of having the top seed choose their opponent is the potential drama. Switching your opponent and then having them be the only one who would’ve beat you out of the remaining opponents is super juicy. It makes the matches more personal. And it gives a reward to having a top seed which I think is justifiable and good for the game.

Trade deadline is an interesting question. It should probably be either at the end of the fantasy regular season or not at all, as having it end in week 12 or whatever normal fantasy leagues do doesn’t really make sense. We’re not worried about someone tanking deliberately or collusion or anything like that. I think allowing them through the playoffs might be a bit more problematic as a team may decide to mortgage their future because they made the championship game when they otherwise wouldn’t have, and… maybe that’s just strategy, but I could imagine the other teams who may not be willing to mortgage the future for one playoff run being somewhat justfiably butthurt about it. My initial gut leaning is to let trades run through the regular fantasy season but stop when the playoffs are decided.

I think I proposed the idea that trades should be publically posted and let people make their offers to beat it which can then override the initial trade if one of the owners likes the next offer more. I think it would be good for the league, as often times people don’t put enough effort into finding trading partners and some players get traded for way less value. I think having this public trading period would spur on offers and generally increase trading in the league. But Jules made a really compelling case that this hurts people (like him) who are indeed putting in a lot of effort to make trades and having someone else come and snatch that away after a lot of work was done by the people with initiative is unfair to them. So it’s sort of a fairness/outcome conflict for me - I think overall it’d probably be good for the league, but it would be bad for the most active traders.

I think superflex would result in a more interesting league with more viable team building strategies but we discussed it a good bit and I don’t know that you can do it in a way that’s fair once the league has already started. A three year lead up is reasonable, but since QBs can last decades, it would definitely advantage certain teams over others and three years isn’t enough to offset that. I’m leaning towards no, even though I think superflex would be more fun.

Again, just some thoughts to get us started, not votes. But Jules is right in that we should get official votes on the record instead of trying to sort it out from discussion. So please at some point this preseason weigh in on the issues - and if you truly don’t care one way or the other you can declare that you abstain and at least we’ll know where you stand and we act accordingly.

Here’s my post last year linking back to old seasons.

In a perfect world, a kindly mod would edit the following table of links into the OP, replacing the “Previous Threads” details section entirely.

Previous Threads

(Click year for draft results.)

I’ll get the voting going:

• Make it a requirement that all accepted trades are publicly posted to allow everyone to submit bids to beat the accepted offer

No surprise, I am strongly, strongly against this.

I think the arguments for this proposal are very weak in that they won’t actually achieve what they say, and I think implementing it would severely damage the activity level and mood/vibe of the league. This is a solution based on a logical fallacy that relies on hindsight bias, and doesn’t guarantee it provides the benefit it is designed to provide.

My thoughts

At a fundamental level, we shouldn’t implement any changes which add a handicap solely those owners who put forth the least effort to improve their teams. This isn’t a parity issue. This is an effort issue. The actual solution here is to put in more effort, not be granted a benefit so you don’t have to play the game we’re playing? If you don’t have time to play, step down from the league.

I don’t buy any arguments that this will increase league activity. That only works if the same amount of trades are accepted, and then more offers are made after that. But this will clearly reduce the amount of offers sent around, which actually lowers the activity level of the league. In my experience, most people choose to react than to act. Most people want to be offered a trade instead of making the first offer. Speaking for myself, I’m sure make more trade proposals than the rest of the league combined, and I don’t see any reason to do so with this rule in place.

On that note, implementing this change also raises the possibility of breaking the league apart through accusations of collusion and hurt feelings. What if a third team bids on an accepted offer and the original owner declines, despite it being significantly more value according to multiple sources? That is subjective, okay, I hear you. What if it keeps happening? What if it keeps happening to one owner? Serious accusations could get tossed around that will potentially damage the league. Think back on all the bitching fests we’ve had in this league about trade objections (more on this bullshit later), trash talk that caused hurt feelings, and everything between. As a reminder, all of those happened just last season. Do we think this will improve league morale? How? Honestly, I can only see multiple likely ways it will hurt league morale.

Additionally, implementing this rule creates cascading problems that fuck up a lot of the things we’ve done in this league for years. For example, pushing through trades that are passed the day before games as a courtesy (no longer an option, here). We would basically have to require that trades have to be finalized on Tuesday, giving at least a day to “auction” the trade before games on Thursday, limiting the time to negotiate to begin with and making it so fewer trades are made. We would need another 3-7 days of time added to our draft to accommodate the extra time needed to allow for bids to be made on all the approved draft pick trades. How long is the timer, then? We struggle a lot with 12 hour timers as it is, do we add time for a trade auction? What if someone posts a trade and doesn’t respond in enough time for their pick timer? Do we skip that person even though a trade is in place but not technically finalized? Who is actually on the clock? These are all problems we would have to figure out, and again, why complicate everything?

We often run right up against the draft deadline, and in at least one past year we actually did not finish the draft before the first regular season game. So now we have a proposal which helps those that put in the least effort at the expense of those who put in the most, will likely only hurt people’s feelings, and forces us to change how we have operated the league and how we have drafted for years. There’s no upside here other than satisfying the “I don’t like that trade, I would have offered more” threadshitting that goes on here.

Finally, we can’t ignore how this proposal got brought up three days after yet another meltdown about how I “fleeced” someone in a trade. Shitty comments were made that I won’t get into, but if you bother to go back and look, every single person who bitched about the “league damaging” trade in question ended up looking like a fool. Objections were raised about how I traded a player who would “never play again.” Spoiler alert: That player played again that season and are a top 12-14 dynasty asset at their position now. I traded for a player who may be suspended for an entire season, and another player who melted down and got kicked off his team. I think it’s a fair interpretation that I actually lost the trade in question along with seemingly every other one that gets bitched about. This happens every season, and it’s exhausting.

There was lip service paid to the idea that this was a proposal in response to Overly possibly leaving the league. That’s, frankly, not a legitimate defense of this proposal. Primarily, among several reasons, because you can’t tell if the trade makes him team more or less attractive to a new owner. It turns out, this trade made Overly’s team MORE enticing to a new owner, and run through any trade calculator was a clear win on his part. Surprise, etc.

We’re basing the idea that this proposal makes trades more fair on the fallacy that we can tell who won a trade to begin with. If this is actually a proposal to solve the problem of one owner getting over on everyone else, please understand we’re all morons here and no one knows how trades will turn out. It could make trades more lopsided because there’s no way to know if a trade is actually “more fair” until a season or so later. By then, the “more fair” trade might be more lopsided. So this proposal doesn’t actually work the way it is intended to work. Again, this is a false solution to a non-existent problem.

Bottom Line: Everyone should be doing this on their own anyway according to their commitment to the league, and legislating it will only cause significant problems while being a mirage of a solution to a problem that doesn’t actually exist.

• Reseeding the standings for the playoffs
• Allow the #1 seed to choose their playoff opponent
I think these belong together, and I should have lumped them together to begin with. I don’t think we should automatically reseed the playoffs. However, I do think there should be a benefit to being the #1 seed, and I think it’s a fun and interesting way to implement that benefit without adding more playoff teams because a bye isn’t actually a benefit in fantasy. I vote yes to allowing the #1 seed to pick their opponent, and then reseeding from there. I think everything SenorBeef says about this proposal is spot on, and it would be a lot of fun.

• Trade deadline:
I think trades should be locked at the first week of the playoffs, but only for playoff teams. I vote there should be no deadline otherwise.

• Consolation Bowl FAAB benefit:

For the sake of simplicity and providing a more meaningful benefit to winner of the consolation bowl, I think every team should start with $100 FAAB and only the winner of the consolation bowl gets an extra $10. I would even say $20

• Superflex:
I think we should add a Superflex roster spot, starting 3 seasons from now. (2024 season). That is plenty of time to find quality starters via trade or free agency, move around in the draft to grab one (again, you have 3 years for this), or otherwise maneuver to adjust your roster. I think it would clearly add more intrigue and activity to the league, and it would “future proof” our league to fall in line with what is becoming more of a standard league setting.

For the record, I’m going to say in advance that I won’t be responding to replies to my thoughts about the trade window proposal. I’ll admit the proposal itself makes me angry, I’ve tried to separate that anger as best I can from my thoughts on it, and I’m done with it. I’m not interested in a discussion on how I feel about it, just to save anyone the time who may be so inclined.

I love doing these year in review posts. I don’t know how insightful they actually are, but I like seeing some of the macro season trends and being able to reference where they fit in our previous history.

Total Points Scored (no playoffs):

19,299.63 (-352.53 from last year)

Scoring was down a bit, and this was reflected in a couple interesting results from last year. SenorBeef was the scoring champion from last season if you factor in the playoffs, but his was the lowest score of any scoring champion in league history.

Top Single-Week Scores of 2021 (150+)

Beef w16 - 179.10
Petey w3 - 168.45
Ellis w4 - 165.65
Retro w5 - 164.13
Beef w10 - 164.30

There were 13 qualifying weeks this season, which is slightly lower than last season. Only SenorBeef’s championship round score of 179.80 managed to break the 20 highest scores ever, and it slotted in at 9th highest ever. If you’re as interested in my brutally unlucky 2021 season as I am, I had the highest preseason projected score and did not once pass 150. I also faced the most number of weeks where my opponent scored 150.

Whereas the highest single-week score was set in 2020, 2021 saw the lowest single-week score with Omni in week 7 managing only 43.88. That was against me, so I guess one thing did go right.

Highest Losing Scores of 2021 (120+)

Jules w16 - 148.95
Beef w5 - 143.95
Neils w14 - 137.85
Retro w7 - 137.55
Gaffer w4 - 136.90

The threshold to make this list was set at 120+. My team finished 7th in scoring for the season, but had the most weeks scoring 120+ and losing anyway.

All-Time Win/Loss Though Thirteen Years:
Jules 		49	35	0.583
SenorBeef	103	79	0.566
RNATB		103	79	0.566
Justin		97	85	0.533
Hamlet		97	85	0.533
Ol_Gaffer	28	28	0.500
Omni		69	85	0.448
Ellis		78	104	0.429
Dalej42		72	110	0.396
Retro		71	111	0.390
Overly		21	35	0.375

PeteyPart2	8	6	0.571

Legacy:
Stringer	83	43	0.659
Furt		46	52	0.469
VarlosZ		69	57	0.548
Petey		90	78	0.536
Hermits		10	18	0.357

My bid to catch up to Stringer took a serious hit last season. I would need 35 wins in 3 seasons to do so, which is a tall order.

If you combine Petey and PeteyParty2, you get a 98-84 record, good for a .538 winning percentage and 4th all-time.

There are two sets of ties at the top of the order, setting up some interesting rivalry games coming up this season.

Finally, I also keep track of the highest scores by position. I won’t go into all the details, but I found some things interesting when I compiled all the results. Of the top 20 highest single-week scores by a QB, seven of them happened last season. However, only one of the top 20 highest WR weeks happened last season. On that note, three of the five highest ever weeks by a TE happened last season, so there may be a change brewing in the relative values of these positions.

For my official votes, I have the same votes as Jules other than for Superflex. I vote no on Superflex. As mentioned before, some QBs last decades, and I think it’s unfair unless it is a brand new league, even if you wait 3 seasons.

Also, I named myself PeteyPart2 because I inherited his roster. So feel free to merge his career stats and mine.

And whoever this Stringer person was really kicked some ass apparently.

Pouring a beer out for VarlosZ.

First and eternal champ here. I’m against superflex, pro-eliminating the trade deadline, and ambivalent about the other stuff. I don’t remember any discussion last year about making all trades public - what were the claimed benefits?

It was a reaction to a trade that was perceived to be imbalanced. Essentially other owners saying “Well shit, I didn’t realize you’d trade that guy away so cheaply. I would have offered you more.”

So then I guess the idea was to have trades go public so people would get a chance to make those better offers. Seems kind of dopey to me; I agree with Jules.

(I think the trade might have included DeShaun Watson, but I don’t remember the details.)

I posted way-too-early cuts in the other thread and I reposted them below (italics indicated anticipated cuts). I’m willing to trade Zack Moss to whoever has Singletary for a draft pick. I’m going to be keeping Njoku since the Browns just gave him a huge contract despite trying to bury him all last season. I might also keep Hardman, Guyton or Engram depending on injuries. Heck, maybe even Burkhead. But if you want any of those guys, or Ryan or Wentz, let me know. They’ll be cheap.

In the other direction, I’m in the market for a fourth RB. Nothing fancy, just someone who will play a bit every week - i.e., a middling third-down back.

QB - Justin Herbert, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, Kyle Trask
RB - Najee Harris, Leonard Fournette, Kareem Hunt, Zack Moss, Duke Johnson, Joshua Kelley, Rex Burkhead, Justin Jackson
WR - Stefon Diggs, Chris Godwin, Cordarrelle Patterson, Rondale Moore, Mecole Hardman, Jalen Guyton
TE - Tyler Higbee, Noah Fant, David Njoku, Evan Engram, Donald Parham, Maxx Williams
K - Matt Prater
DEF - LA Rams, Indianapolis

Thoughts:

*I’m up for superflex (with Mahomes and Burrow, of course I am), so I’ll vote yes. But I won’t be upset if it doesn’t pass. As long as its decided now.

*Publically posted trades. I’m for it; it’s just smart policy to try and maximize your value, but I’m not sure it should be a rule. So, I vote no to rule, but I think people should do it.

*Reseeding standings for playoff. I vote no.

*#1 seed choose playoff. I vote no. It justs hands extra power to the #1 seed.

*No trade deadline. I vote yes.

*FAAB amount. I vote $10.

If the vote is against a Superflex, I’ll likely put soon to be perenial All-Pro and long careered fantasy studJoe Burrow on the market. I’d be looking for a young stud WR, ala Justin Jefferson/Jamaar Chase.

Reseeding - No
#1 Pick Opponent - No

Public Trades - My money league does this and it works out pretty good with a caveat***.

***How we handle it is the team receiving the proposal can post the trade publicly if they choose to try to get better trade-offers, but by doing so they are obligated to take the original deal if no one provides a better proposal to their liking. This is how it works in the real-world, a team will leak a deal to see if teams have counters.

I’m indifferent if we would like to do it here so I’d hate to be the deciding vote at this point.

Hey all, looking forward to another season! Here’s my preliminary votes for all the proposals. I could be convinced to switch, but I’m going to need to hear some strong pitches.

Requirement to Publicly Post All Accepted Trades
NO. That said, I would be very interested in seeing this adopted on a voluntary scale and I will likely do it for most deals involving my team going forward.

Reseeding
Letting #1 Seed Choose Opponent

NO. Things fall where they fall and if the #1 seed ends up against a strong #4, then so be it.

Trade Deadline
The last week of the regular season. Specifically, before the games begin. Trading during the playoffs seems wrong to me (especially for teams that are out of it), but as long as all trades happen before the regular season ends, I say have at it.

Consolation Bowl FAAB Benefit
At least $10, and I could see going to $20 or $30. I’ve always been a big proponent of making the Consolation Bowl mean something and I’ll support any proposal that recognizes it’s importance.

Superflex
UNDECIDED. I lean no, but I can be convinced.

Required to post a trade: Don’t make it mandatory, also, could this drag the draft down slower? A lot of our trades happen during the draft.

Reseeding/Pick your opponent, no strong feelings either way. If I have to pick a side, I’d say no.

Superflex: No, but I’d be interested in a superflex league.

Trade deadline: up until playoffs begin, but basically not having one.

FAAB/consolation bowl, prefer more than $10, definitely don’t feel strongly about it

The Superflex question is tough because I think the QB position is undervalued in this league when it comes to draft-stock but because our league seems to have an all or nothing with how the top-tiers are rostered it seems to be in low supply at the same time.

There’s still a lot of time before we have to have our cuts submitted, but I figured I would get started early since I have just about zero flexibility with who I can cut. I had 6 players on IR (typical…), and I owe two picks from last year’s trades, so I have to cut 8 players. So while we wait for @Overly_Sentimental @Ol_Gaffer and @Omniscient to check in, here’s my list. Obviously I will reserve the right to change this based on something horrible happening

QB - Russell Wilson, Derek Carr, Deshaun Watson
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, Travis Etienne, Miles Sanders, Eno Benjamin, Chris Evans, Tevin Coleman, Craig Reynolds
WR - Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, Jerry Jeudy, Elijah Moore, Terrace Marshall, Calvin Ridley, Dee Eskridge, Jamal Agnew, Quez Watkins
TE - TJ Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K - Daniel Carlson
DEF - Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Washington, Seattle

I very much doubt this is going to change. This would give me two picks, and those are being shipped off

Checking in…will come back and review the thread and vote when I have some time. I’m of course back for the season if anyone was worried.