I think you are wrong.
Yes, well, one is owed $8 million and the other isn’t.
CJ Spiller was still on the board; I take it he was your #3?
Part of it is my owning Garçon last year, and slowly coming to the conclusions that (A) Austin Collie was Manning’s preferred target of the two (which would make him at best the 4th most important receiver o the team), and that (B) Garcon was mostly just an acceptable injury replacement made prolific by the Colts’ passing offense, one who will very likely be phased out within a year or two when better players become available.
Of course, I could be wrong about all that, and I did just trade a starting Colts WR for a rookie 4th Rounder who’s yet to be play a regular season NFL game … for Tampa Bay. Like I said, I talked myself into Williams big time.
Also, holy shit, I have a fuck-ton of good to great WR prospects: Mike Williams, Dez Bryant, Kenny Britt, Michael Crabtree – not to mention my starters are Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, and Santonio Holmes (aged 26, 24, and 26). So, you know, interesting trade proposals considered.
Finally (and I mention this now so that people can clearly see where my potential bias lies), but maybe we should consider adding another WR slot to the starting rosters next season. In scouting the other teams last night for possible trades, I noticed that we obviously all have a ton of them on our roster, and almost no one is really hurting for even a fourth serviceable WR. A lack of scarcity kinda deadens the trade market, you know?
Eff that. Add a running back spot. 
My top two receivers are Chris Chambers and Mario Manningham.
I’ll happily consider trade offers that involve me getting a receiver and giving a quarterback. Both Tony Romo and Tim Tebow are on the block, obviously for different cailber receivers.
That’s why I said “*almost *no one.”
And I have some degree of interest in Tony Romo. Perhaps something could be worked out…
Yeah I had Matthews, Best, and Spiller as my top 3.
The problem with trading isn’t that there are too many wideouts. It’s that the teams that need help all need help at the same positions. You might not need help at wideout, but I need to add a good one since V-Jack is down for the count.
I’m stacked at QB, RB, TE, K and DST though… although I’d prefer more top-end quality and less middle-end depth at RB.
Hey, dale, you’re a big Cardinals fan, right? In the He Hate Me league I have to decide by tomorrow whether or not to keep Matt Leinart (with my 11th Round pick). Does the QB competition seem to be leaning strongly one way or another?
Personally, I would have said that if the guy has a 50/50 chance of keeping his job in Year 4, he’s not worth keeping even if he does get the job.
It’s not so much that there are too many good ones, just that there are too many good enough ones. It seems like all but a couple of teams have at least one or two guys for their 4th WR who are good bets to give them a 50/800/6 (or the equivalent when factoring return yards), and half the teams aren’t even going to be using a 4th WR. I honestly think adding a spot would juice the trade market and make 2nd and 3rd tier WRs meaningful properties (though, again, I pretty much stand directly to gain, so my perspective might be warped).
Ha, yeah, definitely one way of looking at it.
I would be all for adding a 4th WR spot.
You can already start 4 WRs.
Of course you would. You’re stacked.
I made a counter-offer.
I’m interested in Romo too if you can’t work anything out with VarlosZ
I’m looking for two above-average (not stud but good) receivers who either are starters or probably will be by next year. By starter I mean either #1 or #2. I’m offering Romo and Mario Manningham. If you want an even player swap, I’ll take your worst QB back and toss in James Jones.
Everyone is welcome to make me an offer in yahoo. Remember I’m a NY homer so offers involving guys like Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes or Hakeem Nicks would be viewed more favorably. (Of course I’d love Steve Smith, but he’s probably too good for this kind of deal.)
I’d be willing to part with Edwards, but I’m not sure what on our rosters we could swap. Romo is a good bargaining piece, but it’s one of two positions where I’m already set.
There hasn’t been much discussion of the autodraft snafus. I guess I feel most strongly about it that a pretty big injustice went down. If the autodrafting players were neglegent, I’d say it’s their own fault, but I think they (or at least Retro, haven’t figured out if Dale pre-ranked) made a reasonable effort to make sure they’d get a reasonable autodraft. It’s not necesarily obvious to notice that the autodraft will fill in empty slots before going to the prerank list unless it’s happened to you before.
I would go so far as to consider a redraft to get it right. Losing your first round pick is a pretty big deal. I guess other options would be to give them a lot of FAAB money, or maybe double picks in next year’s first round.
Redrafting is problematic because it can screw other people. If someone for example thought player X might slip to the third round and someone picks him up in the late 2nd, that person could go ahead and use that knowledge to draft player X in the second round. We could partially offset it by forcing people to draft the person they originally drafted in that slot if they’re still available, but a redraft is certainly not without flaws.
Is this not a concern for everyone else?
I too feel it was unfair and would be more than happy to do a redraft. I actually think we should.
Just looking at it, I think Retro got majorly screwed out of Spiller. There are other, probably equally as traumatic loses too.
I call redo. We can even do it in this thread. I trust everyone.
That’s a pretty good idea. If the guy you actually selected is available, you have to take him. If he’s not (like VarlosZ losing out on Spiller would get to grab Bryant or whoever he would have grabbed), you can grab whoever you would have.