Oi, Twisty, are you gonna tell us the answer to your little riddle? The Guardian Knowledge gave me the most relegated player but not manager, and any way your question seemed like it might specify the most different teams.
And if you ask that “Once you’ve done it, you can never do it again” question I shall sabotage your FF team from the Chairman’s Office.
(Incidentally, the answer, as well as the origin of the “your boys took a hell of a beating” quote is in this Knowledge.)
On the subject of clubs folding - it isn’t always a total disaster. I live near Wimbledon and the story there is very cockle warming.
I go to the odd AFC Wimbledon game and it really is a great experience (the footy is astonishingly shite, like a school match). Its the full-on jumpers for goalposts experience. Old ladies with rattles and rosettes. Kids being passed to the front. Inedible meat pies, a raffle and tombola, a stand with a tin roof that makes a great sound when it rains. And crowds of 4,000.
And to continue…Bryan Adams, Matt Aitken (SAW), Anthony Andrews, Sir AJ Ayer, Dennis Berkamp (oh the irony), Kenneth Branagh, Bernard Bresslaw (Charles Hawtrey was a gooner - natch), Charles Bronson (the prisoner not the craggy actor), Pierce Brosnan, Emma Bunton, Jah Wobble, Fat Gatt the cricketer, Patsy Kensit, Bernie Grant, Trevor McDonald, Paul Merton, Warren Mitchell (who sits near me), Barry Norman, Trigger from only fools…,Leslie Phillips (ding dong), David Putnam, Salman Rushdie (in disguise), Deanna Troi from star trek (born in edmonton), Paul Whitehouse (scorchio),.
And yes I did nick it from the mine eyes site…
Manager with the most relegations? hmmmmm…
Dave Basset springs to mind but i don’t have time to check.
This just in:
Ferdinand is out for sure (kidney still infected), Dyer might be fit/available. Beckham’s still a probable. Yootha Joyce on standby.
Molly Sugden, Kathy Bates and Hattie Jakes also ready to take their place in the “Diamond”.
Yep, plus Una Stubbs up front with Thora ‘the turd’ Hurd linking with the diamond. Shaping up nicely.
I see Joyce Grenfell as the new Bobby Moore ?
Is this the starting XI Playing 4-4-2-2(windsors)
Jaques (good stopper)
Bresslaw Robertson-justice Cribbins Simms
Dale James Williams Stubbs
Windsor Hawtrey
With the size at the back and the guile of hawtrey and williams these fellows would be a match for anyone (well the current spurs team at least)
I see Bernard Bresslaw in central defence rather than out wide, after his performance as “The Giant” in Hawk the Slayer.
Also Bernard Cribbins IS Steve Bruce. Spot on.
Nice balance and with a bit of bite but disappointed there’s no room for Jack ‘Whey Hey’ Douglas in the starting line up – I expect he’s on the bench though with a cameo beckoning.
Impressive, no substitute for class (unless you count Baggio going to Blackburn).
Perhaps we can have Inman as manager once the Rooskies get themselves sorted.
I can see Syd James having his good and bad days. He’s got guile, but has a tendency to “crack up” at the slightest provocation (of a bad pun)
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Having James and Windsor in the same team is like having Fowler and Macmanaman – you’re asking for trouble. Or you were, maybe they’ve grown up. I doubt it. At least King Kev has the chance to find out.
I was just reflecting on Beckham picking up this ‘groin strain’ last night and everyone having to wait until he meets up with the squad and the physio’s get a chance to take a look.
I wonder if the distance between Madrid and wherever is going to mean an era of anxious anticipation and concern until the press and public find out that, yes!, he really is going to be fit.
Am I sniffing another cute move by Becks and his team of advisors . . . ?
Sometimes I just feel so used
BTW, I was doing some quick maths. Expenditure to date on players = £110 million
Less:
Winning the Champs League = £40
Share value increase in Chelsea Village as a result = £40-£60
Residual value in players bought £40-£60
Additional commercial activities = £10
So, if he doesn’t spend too much more (say £50) and he wins the Champs League next year, he’s probably not out of pocket and he’s probably the most powerful individual in world footie, with the team still in the bin – I just thought that interesting. And, of course, it’s if he wins.
Remember this is the guy that backed (now president) Putin in the early 1990s. He’s clairvoyant. Hmmmm . . .
Any thoughts ?
Chelsea Maths (as per Owl)
Money paid out:
Payment for chelsea village £60m
Guarenteeing (note not paying) existing debts £70m
Players £110m (actually about £70m - don’t believe all you read)
Increase in wage bill over lifetime of players contracts £100m (this is a pure guess)
Total: £340m at most
On the other side of the balance sheet.
Value of Chelsea Village assets including CFC £250m
Value of Chelsea Village without CFC, and CFC in another site £500m
Resale value of players £40m
Increase in ticket sales (2000 per game @ 40 a go x 45 games £3.6M)
Debt guarenteed with CVplc assets £70m
He’s still on the right side of the balance sheet, and this is why I really don’t think it’s going to be a long term love affair.
I’m ashamed to say that in a Bjørge Lillelien stream-of-conscoiusness kind of way I was a bit casual with the truth…
But he did do “The Israelites”… so he probably is a fellow sufferer.
Same goes for Audrey Hepburn - Nico Clausen was Belgian as well… though I don’t recall Audrey Hepburn spending an entire season offside.
As for Precious McKenzie… well, he knew Peter Purves and he just sort of seemed… well…
Anyway…
FACT: Fidel Castro - Gooner
FACT: Osama Bin Laden - Gooner
The facial hair is a dead giveaway…
I actually have no idea who was the most relegated manager, I was hoping someone else would know.
BTW,
I don’t think you can count the money spent on players by chelsea as a Negative, as it has all been guarenteed by Abramovich (if not already paid. ) when he bought the club did he jive it a whopping cash injection also?
manscaroni, your list reads like a Half Man Half Biscuit song.
FACT: MUrdochettes - Eamonn Holmes, Mick Hucknall, Terry Christian, Tony Blair, Lisa Riley, Angus Deayton.
Is Terry Christian the only one actually from Manchester?
ALAN BALL!!! (not counting non leaguers)
You were already showing your taste and age with the ‘Dukla Prague Away Kit’ name choice - some of us wouldn’t do that . . . <cough>