Seagal or Van Damme?

One of Seagulls films had Erika Eleniak popping out of a cake topless.

That would make Seagal win my vote as the best Beatles song, never mind a poll against some tiny dancer.

Damn right it did. You’re lucky it didn’t snap both of your wrists.

Seagal was a high ranking aikido practitioner, but Van Damme was in awesome shape and probably smarter. I’m going to say Van Damme would have kicked Seagal in the face and Seagal would have spent the rest of the beating coming to terms with the fact that fighting aikido students who are cooperating isn’t the same thing as fighting a muscle-dude who can kick you in the face.

I think it would have gone something like this. <– Youtube

Yeah. JCVD has at least fought in tournaments, and did fairly well. I don’t note anything in Seagal’s Wiki page indicating that he did the same. And these days, Steven really looks like he’s let himself go.

Seagal looks like he’s let go of everything but a whole roast ham.

Unlike EVERY other Martial Arts star, from Chuck Norris to Jet Li, Seagal’s movies are nothing but masturbatory self-congratulation scenes where no one is allowed to touch him. There are no scenes where he gets his ass handed to him, and if a single punch is landed on him in the entire movie, it would be a shock. Like the scene in that one movie where he goes through the bar taking down everyone without being touched.

Total. Douchebag.

I think Seagal and Rourke should do a new movie together. Just so people can screw up their faces and look at each other with WTF Happened expressions.

Off the top of my head, I can think of four JCVD movies I liked (Bloodsport, Timecop, Sudden Death and Hard Target) and one Steven Seagal movie (Under Siege).

JCVD = FLAWLESS VICTORY: FATALITY

Timecop vs Under Seige. Tie

Self-aware Van Damn, I’m Hot vs Steven Seagal Lawman. No contest. Van Damage for the win!

Tertön Chungdrag Dorje aka Seagal is a recognized reincarnate Tibetan lama, so he’s got that going for him.

The American film actor Steven Seagal, while already an adult, was recognized by Penor Rinpoche, the head of the Nyingma school, as the reincarnation of a 17th century tertön from eastern Tibet, Chungdrag Dorje. Penor Rinpoche notes that “such recognition does not mean that one is already a realized teacher”; Seagal has not been enthroned and has not undergone the extensive program of training and study that is customary for a tulku.[8]

And Seagal’s SNL host appearance was bad acting at it’s worst.

I do think Segal’s performance in Executive Decision was worthy of a nomination for Best Unsupported Actor.

I honestly never noticed this before, but you’re right. (And you’re thinking of “Above the Law.”)

Even Schwarzenegger gets beaten up pretty frequently in his films.

I voted Van Damme for many of the reasons cited but also because he made a great save in the Stanley Cup Finals in that one movie set in and around a Penguins game.

I have, by a quick count, 22 of Van Damme’s films on DVD. I don’t have a single one with Seagal. Guess who I voted for?

Refresh my memory: Didn’t Seagal get himself adopted by some Indian tribe and give a public speech slagging “those despoiling white men”? Am I confusing him with some other actor?

The one who kicks a lot beats the one who runs a lot. Van Damme!

Main difference for me:

If we were the last people on Earth and it had to be Seagal, I might convince myself it was okay to let the human race just die out.

Van Damme appeared in the same movie as Raul Julia as M. Bison. Plus, Van Damme is a name awesome enough to be used by Victor van Damme aka Doctor Doom, while Seagal sounds like seagull.

No contest.

Seagal run? How can he run if he can barely kick? Seagal waddles, or possibly ambles.

Van Damme, because Bloodsport is awesome.

Of course he runs, in every movie of his I’ve seen.* Like a girl.

*Admittedly a small sampling…

You might be thinking of the closing scene in “On Deadly Ground” where he gives a five-minute long speech lambasting oil companies and various other corporations for their environmental recklessness.

As a sidenote this is one of my favorite “so bad, it’s good” movies. If for no other other reason, it’s worth a viewing to see Michael Caine, in one of his “I’m just here for the paycheck” roles, chewing the scenery as a sinister Indian jacket, bolo tie wearing oilman.