Search Committee Follies

I am on a Search Committee. Applications closed last week, and yesterday we sat down together to trim our list of twenty-odd names to an even dozen whom we’ll plan to interview. (A preliminary interview, after which we’ll whittle the list down further–it’s a long process.) The co-chairs of the committee asked us to come to meeting having categorized each candidate as a plus (should definitely interview), a minus (shouldn’t bother), or a neutral.

We began by looking at the pluses. Most people designated six or seven candidates as pluses, which is a reasonable figure; but one not-so-reasonable committee member listed sixteen. Okay. We’ll deal with it. A few applicants, it turns out, got six or more pluses, which is to say that more than half the committee members want them interviewed. “How about,” I suggest, “we move these candidates immediately into the to-be-interviewed pile? They’ve got a lot of support. We’ll need to discuss them thoroughly later in the process, but there’s no need to use up time talking about them now.”

“That’s a great idea,” someone says, “but I just wanted to point out that I gave a plus to [candidate with 8 votes] because I thought she was [long explanation of many of candidate’s virtues].” “Oh, that’s interesting,” says someone else, “because I also thought she was wonderful, but I was especially struck by [some other great virtue of the candidate].” “I was neutral about her,” chimes in someone else; “I was concerned about [small and probably quite trivial issue]; do we think this might be a problem?”

“Um,” I break in, “remember that these candidates have broad-based support among the committee members. We’re just choosing the top twelve, and these people are clearly in the top half. We have a lot of deciding to do; can we just say yes to them and move on?” Heads are nodding. But one person’s got her hand up. “I just wanted to say that one of the reasons I supported [candidate with 7 votes] was that…”

We get through that finally. I suggest we next look at the people with exactly one plus in hopes of dropping them from the list. (Every applicant got at least one plus, including the guy who submitted a resume on which the name of the street he lives on and the names of his most recent employers were all misspelled.) I am met with general agreement. “Let’s look at the minuses for these people,” someone suggests. Okay. Turns out that in almost all of these cases at least half of us gave them a thumbs-down. One plus, five or more minuses: The nays would seem to have it.

“All right,” I say, trying to bend over backwards to make sure no one feels unheard, “those of you who said yes to these folks—are you saying that this candidate’s really, really strong and the rest of us are missing something? Because otherwise I think we should eliminate them from consideration.”

“Well, I just think that [candidate opposed by six of us] might be better than some of you think,” says the committee member who had sixteen pluses, including several of the candidates who received exactly one vote of confidence. “And I really liked some things about [candidate opposed by five of us] too.” Enough to consider them one of your top two or three? “Well, no, but…”

We get rid of nearly all of these eventually and skip back to the best of the rest: the candidates who got four or five pluses. I suggest we hear from any naysayers in each case—anything they noticed that the rest of us didn’t, anything we should have taken into account? We start with a candidate with five pluses and a single minus. The single no voter says, “She just didn’t grab me, but there’s nothing really wrong with her; I’m fine with going with the flow and moving her over to the interview pile.” “Okay,” I say, “everybody down with that?” Another committee member raises her hand. “I had her as a very strong plus,” she says, “and one of the things I really appreciated about her was…”

We do have a list now. But boy oh boy was it an ordeal. And people wonder why I don’t like group work…

I have chaired 3 search committees in the last few years, so I feel your pain. With that number of members, though, I’d suspect your search is dean level or higher. I’ve never had that joy, but I did cringe at your descriptions.

Good luck!

Reminds me of my grand jury duty. We were told we weren’t there to decide guilt or innocence, just whether to send the case on to trial. That seems to be pretty straightforward, right? Nope - one or two on the panel had to argue the merits of the case.

Sometimes I suspect people just like to hear themselves talk…

The frustration of being an equal in a group and trying with all my might to not be bossy and keeping us on track Dammit.

Unless there are donuts.

I’m going to go with Mr. Goob on this, except that I usually fail. I don’t like to think of myself as arrogant or overbearing but I was (and still am) often guilty of both. If I were the chair in a meeting such as the one described I would have probably turned almost dictatorial in keeping the meeting in line. I actually don’t think it’s a bad trait, but it has to be applied minimally. Thank goodness I was never employed in a management capacity.

In church, we call that a “call committee”. If you never believed in Hell before, you will after serving on one.

I’ve always believed the platypus and giraffe were designed by committees.

Just wait until you get all the way through the selection process, and after all the interviews you finally agree on who is the best candidate, you make your recommendation… and then your boss decides to hire someone else anyway. (And it turns out to be someone who had very little support in the search committee to begin with.)

This actually happened when my wife was on a search committee a few years back. Talk about a colossal waste of time…

Ugh, search committee work. I’m a university Admin Asst, so I have the dubious honor of frequently being asked to serve on a search committee in addition to being in charge of the data entry and administration of the search in the online HR system. Faculty and staff searches are time consuming enough, but the HR department at my university recently made a change that I am really praying I can retire before enjoying the benefits of: HR used to vet the applications for clerical positions for basic qualifications, but now they’ve decided to delegate that chore down to the department level. I have no idea how many applications that will mean - last time we did a clerical search we had over 120 qualified applicants after HR weeded them, so I really dread the possibility of having to vet all applications.

But wait! There’s more!

I *thought *we had a list. But it turns out two people applied JUST after the application period ended (a Johnny- and a Joanie-Come-Lately, I suppose), after the last meeting, and the co-chairs had us begin yesterday’s meeting (which was going to be devoted to Other Things) by asking if we wanted to bump any of the bottom three on our list in favor of John or Joan. Not what I would have done, but oh well.

We liked both newcomers reasonably well, didn’t love them, so now we had a top tier of about five, a middle tier of four, and a bubble of five (three oldies plus the two newies). And we discuss those on the bubble to death, or very nearly so, and are moving toward a vote when one person says, “I reviewed Candidate X’s materials [X is a second-tier candidate] last night. I had him as a plus, but now I have him as a minus. Besides which, I was talking to [Other committee member], who agreed that after the last discussion he now seems…problematic.” She asked if we could reopen the discussion on him.

Sigh.

So we discuss for a while, and some new and interesting points are raised, and though I still like the guy several other people are clearly changing their minds, and it’s better to recognize those reservations now than a few weeks later, so…okay. And we vote, and we vote him off the island.

Now our bubble has five people for four places. Are we ready to take a vote on them?..No, we are not. “Well, if we can reconsider Candidate X,” says someone else, “then I’d like to reconsider Candidates Y and Z.” My heart sinks. Candidates Y and Z are in the second tier as well. This is not a good trend. “Are you moving them from plus to minus?” someone asks. The complaining member checks her notes. “I had them as maybes,” she explains, “and I want to change them to minuses.” And when someone points out that two pluses becoming minuses is perhaps a *little *different from a single maybe turning into a no, she isn’t having it. “I don’t see why we can’t reconsider Y and Z if she gets to reconsider X,” she says petulantly, pointing to the one who had brought up X. “They’re all second tier.”

So she speaks against Candidate Y for a few minutes (sigh), and when she pauses for breath I suggest another show of hands. All in favor of moving Y off the list?..One. You can guess who. Before we can get involved in the pros and mostly the cons of Z, I quickly suggest we now vote among the ones who are on the bubble. Mercifully, almost everyone agrees. And we vote. The one left outside in the cold is Candidate A-prime, who falls just short of B-prime for that coveted twelfth spot.

“We should reconsider,” says one member. “I had A-prime as a definite, *definite *minus.” “Yes,” I say, “and you’ve explained that ad infinitum [I didn’t actually say “ad infinitum”], and the group does not agree. We need to leave things as they are.” “But I *really *didn’t like A-prime,” she sniffs, and it is not until one of the co-chairs gently says, “Yes, and I *really *didn’t like B-prime” that she subsides.

Lord, give me strength…

Thanks for all your replies. I feel perhaps less alone… :slight_smile:

Whoops, mixed up my B-prime and A-prime there. You’re smart enough to figure it out…

More news from the front.

We’re still at it. We had a mostly productive meeting last week after interviewing all our remaining candidates remotely (let’s hear it for skype) and reduced our list to 5. Or maybe 6.

(What’s that, Ulf…you don’t know? Well, no, I don’t, because…)

As before, committee members were asked to separate candidates into three groups: pluses, neutrals, and minuses, with the intention of getting down to about five candidates. This time, we were limited in our pluses–a good thing.

A handful of candidates fell right out–including one I liked quite a lot, but no one else did, oh well, and another I hadn’t liked at all on paper but most other people had. The second one had a lousy interview, causing most of her original supporters to agree she really wasn’t going to cut it. A good thing; I had been sharpening my claws and beak in preparation for a fight, but as it turned out I didn’t have to say a word.

Our number six candidate had zero minuses. However, he only had very few pluses, with nearly everyone else being neutral. After much discussion that we just didn’t like him, as a group, enough to pursue his candidacy any further. Someone moved to take him off the active list, and there was clearly plenty of support for that–until one committee member, who doesn’t usually say much, spoke up.

Turned out she wanted to leave him on the list. “You think he’s that great?” we asked. No, that wasn’t it. Turns out that this committee member is acquainted with one of this guy’s references. She wanted to keep him on the active list so that she could contact this reference and discuss the candidate with her.

Ladies and gentlemen, I kid you not. To make matters worse, the chair acquiesced. So whether we have five or six is still unknown.

Oh, the other thing was the candidate who had a pair of neutrals and everything else a plus–you know, the candidate who is CLEARLY the one with the broadest base of support thus far? The one that we don’t have to talk about, because after all NO ONE IS OPPOSED TO HER CANDIDACY AND B/C NEARLY EVERYONE FAVORS IT? Yeah, that one. One of the committee members brought her up at least three separate times. “I know a lot of you like her,” she kept saying, “but I worry about…” To which I finally said, “You have her as a neutral, not a minus. Are you changing your mind?” “Um, no,” she said, “but I just thought…”

Yes, we will have to discuss this candidate in significantly greater detail. But good lord, this is not the time to do it. This candidate, lest we have forgotten, had more pluses than anyone else and no minuses whatsoever. Can’t we pass her on to the next round and go discuss somebody else? Pretty please with sugar on top?

Also I’d like a pony.
Committee meetings would function better with no one present. Sad but true.

Just one question …

How much effort is going into hiring this person compared to how much effort is put into who you vote for?

I’ve never experienced anything approaching this level of effort - it sounds insane to me.

That was one aspect of my job in university admin that I was delighted to leave behind. 200 applications for a junior clerical job would be nothing unusual, and it was very difficult to find distinctions between a great many of them. I once took the lot on a long weekend away so that I could use the train journey to concentrate on the initial sift. Fortunately, for that sort of job I had discretion on shortlisting and only needed to bring in other people for interviews.

Sounds like quite a few examination boards in British universities. “But are we sure this is clearly a First, or just borderline, and how close? Does the exit velocity, make a difference, bearing in mind where this candidate was last year?” At Oxford, I believe they’re still using the old classicists’ terminology, so it tends to be “I think a Beta++, though perhaps shading to an Alpha- at some points,or perhaps on that paper there’s more of a Beta- feel?”

Take away the chairs and make them stand. And no-one has loo-breaks till there’s a decision.

Works wonders.

It is insane.

Part of the problem is that the committee is too large. Part of the problem is that there are too many people who fundamentally don’t like voting…they would prefer to do things by consensus, which may work (though I have my doubts) but takes way too much time and energy.

Yes, there will be a great deal of effort invested in determining the final choice, apart from the voting itself. Whether this is a good thing or not I couldn’t tell you.

I’m a professional game designer and I helped my wife design the process for grad admissions in her department. It’s similar to what you’re doing but with a few refinements.

[ul]
[li]You may only vote yes or no. No maybes.[/li][li]You MUST have EXACTLY as many yes votes as there are admission slots. If you don’t like that many applicants, vote yes for the least objectionable.[/li][/ul]
Allowing people different numbers of yes votes is unfair. It permits the system to be gamed by people trying to push their personal favorites. Not allowing any maybes forces people to think hard about their preferences BEFORE they get in the meeting.

After the vote is taken any candidate with all yes votes is clearly in and any candidate with all no votes is clearly out and they don’t need to be discussed. Then you start in on the candidates with either one yes or one no. Does the dissenter want to argue to convince everyone else to change their vote? If not, discard those as well. Work from the outside in.

She’s used this system for the last two years and its been smooth as silk each time.

No wonder some job applicants are invited to interview for the first time six or eight months after applying.

That’s to give the good ones a chance to find a job someplace else.

I’ve served on that kind of committee (a call committee for my pastor, and the interim pastor before that). The only way to survive is to be absolutely ruthless about “We aren’t discussing that right now” and “That’s been decided”.

Back in the days of vaudeville, I am told of a large sandbag that could be swung down on a rope to knock a failed turn off the stage. I must ask the Property Committee at church to look into that.

Regards,
Shodan