"Second Amendment Remedies" [re: Arizona Shooting]

I wonder who shot the child…the nut, one of the bodyguards (returning fire), or an armed bystander.

Several new outlets are putting out the same name now. Here’s one.

Relax. Twenty four hours, likely less, you’ll know more about this guy than you know about your momma.

Right, and those who advocate violent revolution and hate are responsible for creating such a social-political climate. Whether this guy attended Beck U. is irrelevant, since appeals to the floridly psychotic are more important than whether those appeals are followed through to the letter.

No warning this time, but don’t do this again.

Just looking at the first YouTube video, he doesn’t sound much crazier (or different) than Ron and Rand Paul. “Blah, blah, blah I won’t pay debts in currency not backed by gold, blah, blah, blah they’ve never read the constitution, blah, don’t accept federalist laws.”

Looks like a right-wing loony to me.

To this point the whole thing is spin. Everybody’s looking for something to get a zinger in with.

I have seen a lot of stuff reported this afternoon in the aftermath, ranging from premature announcements of her death to the virtually unbelievable assertion that this was done with an automatic weapon (which if so would be the third time since 1934, hence my incredulity).

Let’s wait and see what really happened before we all start jumping to conclusions, shall we?

It was the stuff about the year formatting and government-controlled grammar that I found to be on the outer fringes of the looney-tunes continuum.

Watch the community college one. Both police and grades are unconstitutional on his planet, apparently.

If those are indeed the gunman’s YouTube videos they paint quite a picture.

Only currency backed by precious metals is valid.
The department of education is unconstitutional.
Politicians need to read the constitution.

This guy is looking more and more like a left wing immigration activist to my unbiased eyes.

So does he use “A.D.E.” for the date because he thinks you just add an “e” to B.C. and A.D.? What a brilliant guy.

Those incoherent, rambling, insane videos actually painted a picture for you?

I don’t like guns too much, but I think getting into another discussion on gun rights for law abiding citizens does not help. I will say though that an even bigger issue is missed when this discussion comes. So far, the best bet is that we have a nut that had some right wing influences and had access to firearms. Right wingers think that this keeps them off the hook. Nonsense.

This is likely example #20,304 of very lax rules or no rules regulating guns when mental health is an issue. And IMHO incidents like this are related to constant right wing efforts to prevent even the passage of laws attempting to prevent incidents like this one from happening. Of course, this also would mean IMO an increase on funding to help more people that have mental issues. Unfortunately, many of the same people that opposed laws like this also oppose any increases on health care. So, double the despicable IMO.

Incidentally, in Arizona only the declared mentally ill by a court are prevented from using guns, so a doctor or psychiatrist that does find a problem with someone has to depend on the courts for the state to do something about it (that something has to include free mental health treatments, but you try to propose something like that over here), IMHO it leads to many incidents where authorities are too late to do anything. And I will say that some elements in the extreme right would not have any other way.

You missed his complaining that most people in district 8 don’t speak English.

I just figured this out: he typed out the text of his in(s)ane YouTube videos in the “info” section, so you don’t have to actually watch the whole thing. Although, you won’t see the new symbol and number he’s considering adding to the alphabet and numbering system. Your loss.

Looks more libertarian to me, but I think we’re dealing with less of a coherent ideology and more of a student of CGNU.

On the contrary, a prominent incident in which the consequences of Second Amendment fundamentalism are made clear is precisely the right time. A discussion about exactly what a “law abiding citizen” is, and how one can make sure such a person is never sufficiently angered to violate the law, is also a good one to have at this time.

You’re right about how we need better mental health care, of course - you loony liberal.

He’s almost certainly making fun of this prognostication.

Fair enough - he’s at least entered the discussion here. His colleagues who are simply lying low are more cowardly and mindless.

OK, ExTank, my apologies - you’re not a *complete *coward. Some of this is just foolishness.

:smack: Yes, surely.