Sensitive ass SUV drivers

[Mr.Cynical]

I’ll sum up every salient point fatherjohn has made for you all right now.

*Originally posted by fatherjohn *

That about covers it.

Define backpedaling. Does it mean attempting to explain to you why you’re stupid? Apparently it does, to you. Then again, I’m not surprised. It’s a goddamn shame that there’s not an Olympic event for stupidity. You’d have more fucking gold than Fort Knox.

Clearly, you’re a fucking moron. As much as I think that ITR Champion should have been clubbed over the head at birth, I think you WERE clubbed over the head at birth. Your parents just weren’t able to finish the job before you mystified them with your ability to confuse yourself no matter how hard they try to explain to you why you’re a nincompoop.

I have tried over and over again to help you with your case of cranial-rectal inversion, yet you shun this aid in favor of distributing further ignorance. Every time I attempt to point things out to you, you stymie my efforts with another amazing wave of stupidity.

You, felchdrip, are hardly worth the hijack, quite honestly. Why do I continue to post? Easy. You entertain me, son. Plus, I need someone to yell at from time to time. It’s fun to yell at someone who couldn’t pass a turing test if I gave him a cheat sheet.

You are the singularity of intelligence. All of it in the universe can go into you, but none will ever come out. If Stephen Hawking ever met you, he’d get up out of his wheelchair and kick your ass for being so stupid. Then he’d piss in your ear and force-feed you pic feces.

Since I don’t feel well tonight, I’ll sum up with a a few short words for you:

You Are A Dumbass.

Rest assured, you dimwit fuckwad, I’ll be back in the morning, healthy, and with a nice fresh outlook on life. I won’t be as nice then. Jackass.

[fatherjohn]

*Originally posted by Mr. Cynical *
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Define backpedaling. **

Pertending your position is different from what it is.

It’s amazing that anyone could seriously contend that SUV’s are less prone to roll over, even WITH defective tyres.

But now that I’ve demolished that little idea, you need to switch to “Plan B”

Honestly, the only reason I keep debating with such an intellectual light-weight as yourself is that the “insults” are amusing. It’s a shame there’s no substance behind your poasts.

[Mr.Cynical]

Jesus, dumbass.

How did you decide that I’m saying that SUVs are less prone to roll over?

You are the biggest fucking dimwit I’ve ever encountered! Go back and fucking read a bit, twat. I’ve even EXPLAINED my position to you, and you still can’t understand.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Look, stupid motherfucker, you have nothing to add. You didn’t in the first place, and you don’t now.

Seriously, I’ve never seen someone act more stupid. Backpedaling? How can I, fuckwit? My position is unchanged. Your position is undetermined, unrelated, and unintelligent.

I grow tired of you.

If you don’t fucking wake up and see that you didn’t add anything, and that you are as valuable to this discussion as an infected pubic hair, I’m going to have to make a really fucking straight post with each point bulleted. Then, you might be able to understand. I don’t really want to do that, since I prefer to think that even a first-grader can understand the difference between apples and oranges.

And know what? SUVs? They’re heavy and have windows.

[Man_from_Mars]

>>>… asshole SUV drivers changing lanes without signaling as I am turning into that lane. Then they scream at ME like I did something wrong. One of them followed me because I flipped him off… until he realized a 6’4" man limboed into a Geo Metro and would limbo out and get out a monstrous can of WhupAss™ if he continued to be stupid. SUVs are pretentious, wasteful, UGLY crap.<<<

Goddamn it I’d love to see that. I’d pay to see that prick get his comeuppance. They are all the same. Recently I watched in disgust as an SUV driver picked on a poor little lady in a Camry, calling her a bitch over and over, just because the tiny woman had the nerve to be in his way. I screamed at him from the sidewalk to “Shut the fuck up!” He cursed at me too until I walked toward him. That’s when he decided to drive off.

[SPOOFE]

It’s amazing that anyone could seriously contend that SUV’s are less prone to roll over, even WITH defective tyres.

::deep breath, counts to ten::

::ahem::

Nobody has contended that, you idiot. What HAS been contended is that the other safety factors of an SUV are far greater than the likelihood of a rollover.

Try this… you’re Oh-So-Smart with finding a website to provide on little statistic about rollovers… now try to find some stats on driver-side impacts, full frontal impact, rear-end collisions, etc. and see how the safety record of an SUV differs.

Honestly, the only reason I keep debating with such an intellectual light-weight as yourself is that the “insults” are amusing. It’s a shame there’s no substance behind your poasts.

I have nothing to reply to that (do I really need to?), I just found it so funny that I wanted to see it again. That’s like Mark Serlin claiming to be an upstanding and respected member of the SDMB community.

[SPOOFE]

Recently I watched in disgust as an SUV driver picked on a poor little lady in a Camry, calling her a bitch over and over, just because the tiny woman had the nerve to be in his way.

Yeah, he sounds like a jackass, all right. I hope he chokes on his own bile.

But let me ask you something… if HE had been in the Camry and the little old lady been in the SUV, and he was cursing her out, would that have made him any less of an asshole?

[WolfpackJeep]

*Originally posted by Tony *
**They are all the same.
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No, they’re not. If you had read the entire post, you would have noticed that this point has been covered already. However, since you’re new, I’ll briefly repeat:

Some SUV drivers actually use their vehicles for their intended purpose. These individuals understand that an SUV, particularly one built on a truck frame, cannot be driven like a car. They understand the potential hazards posed to other drivers by their vehicle, and take precautions (i.e., not tailgating) to prevent this from happening.

On the other hand, there are SUV drivers (as you described in your post) who are just plain assholes. They think that an SUV is just a big car, and drive it as such, causing the potential for rollovers (among other things). They use their vehicles simply to indimidate other drivers.

[fatherjohn]

*Originally posted by Mr. Cynical *
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[faux self-righteous indignation deleted]

And know what? SUVs? They’re heavy and have windows. **

yeah yeah, i know the drill.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

:rolleyes:

whatever.

You were a lot more endearing when you were ranting about planarian worms.

P.S. Did you hear that the beetles broke up?

[ITR_champion]

*Originally posted by Jingo *
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Mass = safety. Really. Sure, at the extremes of the spectrum there may be discrepancies, but I’ll limit my incendiary generalities to passenger vehicles. This is my justification for having my wife drive a big honkin’ SUV: It’s safer—for her. Not someone else—her. I don’t think this is (rationally) debatable.
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I agree, there can’t be rational debate on this issue. SUV’s are more dangerous FOR THE DRIVER AND PASSENGERS than are smaller cars. I never said that the poor safety record of SUV’s comes from rollovers and exploding tires, although many people have misquoted me as saying that. Allow me to try drilling these basic facts through your thicks skulls again:
SUV’s are classified as trucks. This is because cars that are sold in the US have to meet certain minimum safety standards that SUV-makers ignore. Most importantly, SUV’s don’t have crumple zones, so any impacts from the sides or behind are more dangerous for people in the 3-ton behemoth than for people in actual cars. If you don’t believe me, just go to the IIHS site.
The problem here is that you are just too stupid to actually care about facts. You hear one person say that driving one of these assault vehicles must me safer for you, so you buy it. Do you also believe McDonalds adds saying that cheeseburgers are the key to good health?

[Lexicon]

I think I can add a little moderation to this thread with the sage words of the great Dennis Miller.

A Hum-Vee slogging through the jungle of the Amazon is a tool.

A Hum-Vee trying to cram into a parking space on Rodeo Drive is being driven by a tool.

Now, I have read this entire thread, and have been able to note that the whole idea of “SUVs serve their purpose but have no place on our streets” has been covered and soundly refuted. Just so it’s known that that’s not what I’m saying with the above quote. What I am saying is simple.

It all boils down to this:
If you’re a dick, you’re a fuckin’ dick, no matter what you drive. Usually, if you’re cool, you’re bleedin’ cool, no matter what you drive.

[WolfpackJeep]

*Originally posted by ITR champion *
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SUV’s are classified as trucks. This is because cars that are sold in the US have to meet certain minimum safety standards that SUV-makers ignore. **

They’re classified as trucks because they ARE trucks. There may be a few exceptions, but most SUVs are still built on a truck base. Therefore, they follow TRUCK safety standards. SUV makers aren’t ignoring anything.

In any case, how you could apply the safety standards of a vehicle the size of a Chevy Malibu to a vehicle the size of a Suburban? Take, for instance, the often-sited rollover issue. SUVs roll over due to higher center of gravity, you say. Great. Let’s give them a lower center of gravity. What do you get? A car! :rolleyes:

[fatherjohn]

*Originally posted by Jeep’s Phoenix *
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*Originally posted by ITR champion *
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Let’s give them a lower center of gravity. What do you get? A car! :rolleyes:

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Here’s what you get:

http://poseur.4x4.org/poseurs.html

I especially like the “jeep”

Quoting from the cite:

"This Jeep was snapped and sent to us by Tom. What possible use can this vehicle have? I sure hope this owner just has a sense of humor…this Jeep is way too silly to be taken seriously. Maybe he wanted to lower its center of gravity so he wouldn’t be in danger of rolling it. "

[WolfpackJeep]

You are aware that they used Jeeps in WWII?

That vehicle has a heritage.

And that website? It’s on about the same level as “The Onion.” I wouldn’t be too proud of it.

[fatherjohn]

*Originally posted by Jeep’s Phoenix *
**You are aware that they used Jeeps in WWII?
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And how many of those were “low-riders” like the one in the picture? Honestly, I’m curious - I’d like to know!

[SPOOFE]

And how many of those were “low-riders” like the one in the picture? Honestly, I’m curious - I’d like to know!

All of 'em. The Army’s specs for what eventually became the “Jeep” demanded that it’s profile be less than three feet high (with window folded down). That seems pretty “low” to me.

Is this all you have, Ol’ 'John? I’ve whiped my ass with stronger arguments.

[The_Bean]

I can’t figure out how they can make SUV’s with such high bumpers. I thought all vehicles had to have bumpers at the same height by law, just to prevent the kind of “high hit” accidents that prove so fatal to sedan passengers.

I know they ticket lowrider cars all the time for precisely this reason.

[SPOOFE]

Trucks have different standards, that’s why.

I imagine, if trucks/SUVs become popular enough, the standard will become the higher bumper (well, okay, not likely… they’re hardly aerodynamic).

Oh, and am I the only one who caught wind of the study that the lower bumpers are more dangerous to pedestrians since they knock out a person’s knees and create a “whiplash effect”? Getting smacked sideways into the hood of a Civic is apparently worse for you than getting nailed by a moving wall

[fatherjohn]

*Originally posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly *
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And how many of those were “low-riders” like the one in the picture? Honestly, I’m curious - I’d like to know!

All of 'em. The Army’s specs for what eventually became the “Jeep” demanded that it’s profile be less than three feet high (with window folded down). That seems pretty “low” to me.

Is this all you have, Ol’ 'John? I’ve whiped my ass with stronger arguments. **

Umm, the original specifications required a minimum ground clearance of 6 1/4 inches. Sorry to “sink your battleship.”

[Emperor_Penguin]

*Originally posted by Annie *
**Lemme tell y’all about the time my sis and BIL hit the moose.

They’d just moved to the Cariboo region of British Columbia. The boonies? Think “Northern Exposure”, except it’s not quaint. Makes South Park look like Paris in the 20’s. The snow starts about 3 weeks after the kids go back to school. It’s where they film SUV commercials.

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Hey! I’m from the Cariboo region and I take offense to that description of life up here. Well actually it’s pretty close. Okay, it’s dead on. You happy now? Sheesh…

Actually, we have very little problem with bad SUV drivers up here. I think it’s due to the fact that almost everybody up here drives or has reecently driven a truck, so they know how to handle big akward vehicles in poor driving conditions. It’s only personal observation, but it lends credence to the theory that it’s not the vehicle but the driver that’s dangerous.

[mske]

Posted by fatherjohn;

All of 'em. The Army’s specs for what eventually became the “Jeep” demanded that it’s profile be less than three feet high (with window folded down). That seems pretty “low” to me.

Is this all you have, Ol’ 'John? I’ve whiped my ass with stronger arguments.

Umm, the original specifications required a minimum ground clearance of 6 1/4 inches. Sorry to “sink your battleship.”

Oh… My… God… How fucking stupid are you?

Tell you what. Before I - and everyone else who passed first grade english - start pointing out your obvious direct ancestry from a pile of soiled cat litter, try going back and reading, one word at a time and nice and slow the above statement made by SPOOFE. Get the assistance of an adult if you can’t handle some of the bigger words. Then maybe you can tell the rest of the board why your comment serves no purpose at all, and that you really don’t know squat.