I haven’t wondered about whether or not she’s trying to create anti-Roma prejudice, but I have wondered whether or not she’s Roma at all. It just seems to be one of those Munchausen-by-Internet things to claim oppression because of membership in a very secretive and misunderstood culture.
And I certainly do not believe that anything she says reflects the majority of Roma culture. I assume that if she IS Roma, she’s a lunatic AND Roma, not a lunatic BECAUSE she’s Roma.
This
Seriously, I figured it out a lonnng time ago.
ZPG isn’t a batshit, insane person.
She’s a fucking troll getting all of your goats and trying to get as many “YOU’RE FUCKING INSANE!” reactions as she can.
I was wondering where my goat went.
Gypsies stole my goat!
(I can’t believe I am doing this.)
ZPG:
My children were ‘stranger-adopted.’ They were born to a mother who didn’t/couldn’t care for them and their father left shortly after they were born never to be heard from again. They had a grandma who helped out who unfortunately died. They had several aunts and uncles. Only one set of these wanted them and this set abused them.
So, they had no family to care for them. What would you have recommended for them? Should they just be killed?
So, just giving your goat away, eh?
If I understand correctly they should be taken care of, but not coddled by being “loved”, and carefully instructed to call you ‘Mr. Paranoia.’
ZPG Zealot – sociopaths are usually born that way. For those who aren’t, they usually have grown up in families where they were abused, not loved.
BTW, my family loved me – but that doesn’t mean they put up with misbehavior. In fact, I’d say the majority of people I know were loved by their parents – and not a single solitary one of them is a sociopath. (This includes people who were -gasp!- adopted.)
:rolleyes:
No, no. A nice orphanarium is far preferable.
I smoke rarely and I do often want to smack sense into people, so I guess ZPG Zealot was right!
Where the only coddling you get is Double Soup Tuesdays.
Wait – should I address my great aunts and uncles as “Great-Uncle Joe” and “Great Aunt Mary”? You know, to avoid confusion.
I can’t imagine why the people involved would not want to change how they address each other to reflect this new information. If it happened why can’t they just deal with and move on. If the love you say is still there it should make no difference if the 18 year old refers to them as Mr. and Mrs. X, my guardians whom I love dearly, rather than Mr. and Mrs. X who are my parents. I’m curious why you would say such a person would have nobody just because they do not have someone to call mother or father. There is much more to family than a mother and father. For some people, friendships are more important than family anyway.
Situations like you have described are the reason legal guardians exist for orphan children. The difference between that older system and the modern adoption concept is that guardians are honest about the children’s origins.
Guys, there’s no use discussing this with her. This is a person who believes that the reason we need to be honest about childrens’ origins is so that people don’t have to interact with adopted people if they don’t wish to. She’s a bigot and not a very nice person. What she thinks is the appropriate way for adoption to be handled is different from how any normal person would imagine. It’s a bit humorous because she obviously has no concept of how adoptive families work in America in the 21st century, but it’s kind of sad, too. Certainly, there’s no way for any of us to relate to it or begin to understand her mindset…you could go 50 pages of discussion with her and it will never make any more sense than it does right now.
I would refer to friends of the family as just that. As for an uncle’s wife, an aunt’s husband, etc., how I refer to them depends on what language I am speaking at the time and the degree of formality involved. In my Romany dialect there are actually separate words to describe the different type of relative based on how they are related (by blood or marriage or both). In all formal introductions in Romany, my uncle’s wife would be referred to as Uncle ____ wife, not Aunt ____ . I would use that for formal situations in English or Serbian also. Informally, I might refer to someone as Uncle ____ or Aunt _____ when speaking in English with sometimes who does address them by that title.
No, I believe the reason we need to be honest about children’s orgins is because it is best for the children and society as a whole. The fact that so many adoptees and adopters get so freaked out by simple honest statements indicates how dark and ugly the practice actually is. Also, removing the opportunity to lie about the children’s origins would probably decrease the number of people trying to adopt hence lowing the demand for infants which would do wonders at reducing the corruption and abuse in the system.
Freaked out by what “simple and honest” statements? Yours? Your view is neither simple or honest.
I am not at all freaked out by my adoption. My parents -yes, PARENTS- were nothing but honest and upfront about my origins and my adoption.
I’m pretty sure I am a BETTER person than I might have been BECAUSE I was adopted.
What form of torture did they use to compel you to do this?
Regards,
Shodan