Dude…this is the Pit in case you haven’t noticed yet. Snark is what we thrive on here and if you can’t understand that, then take your ass out to some other forum instead of being oh so horrified by a bit of snarkiness.
snark, it’s what’s for breakfast.
I thought it was stupid food for breakfast?
Fair enough. I hope you won’t take offense if I say that I just connected you to the Monty from that sticky. You have majorly chilled out in the past couple of years!
That’s cool. I think it’s a difficult line to draw, and I’d prefer that the rule be as it is, with the mods reserving the right to call bullshit on someone trying to abuse the rule. As long as someone is putting forth a political opinion (which, abhorrent as it may be, calling for the deaths of US soldiers clearly is), I think the opinion ought to be allowed. It’s not, after all, a crank-case opinion on an international scale; better to hear the opinion aired here than otherwise.
Daniel
Actually, the only change I see is that I no longer use curse words. I’m still majorly peeved over the pit sticky’s lamish comments. But then I’m not a mod/admin.
Make that “the pit sticky’s op’s lamish comments.”
Enquiring minds want to know. Do you eat it dry or pour some milk in the bowl with it?
So a statement to the effect of ‘I hope people like you die’ is a violation of the rules, except if “people like you” is American servicemen. Even though some Dopers are American servicemen.
:shrugs:
Someday I should post a wish that all the sexually active gay American military abortion providers in Iraq die and watch all your heads explode.
Okay, I give up. How can they watch our heads explode if they’re dead?
You suck crow.
You hunt snark.
Stupid food can be toasted or eaten like cereal.
I hope that such a person would be quickly banned, and any relevant information about him would be turned over to the appropriate authorities.
Really? I wouldn’t. I’d want to hear their point of view and, more importantly, have them hear ours. Who gains from their banning?
Daniel
I would argue that it would depend on what they say. Discussing illegal (In the USA) things are not allowed on SDMB, so they could easily break that rule. In the USA it is illegal to kill a soldier. So they would have to walk a line.
I imagine a quick read thru the posting history of the late unlamented Aldebaran gives an idea of what the viewpoint of such a person would be like.
Interesting question nonetheless - if it is OK to wish death on American servicemen even though some Dopers are in the service, would it be OK to wish death on Iraqi insurgents even if some Dopers were insurgents?
Regards,
Shodan
Given the current status of the rule as I understand it, I would strongly object to a mod smackdown of someone who wished death on Iraqi insurgents were an insurgent to join the board. Such wishes, abhorrent though they may be, comprise a legitimate political position, and such positions are fodder for debate.
Daniel
Yes, we’d probably manage to suppress our rampant anti-Americanism and enforce the rule evenly in that case.
hat’s true enough. I don’t recall seeing any pictures of kids at Abu Ghraib.
that’s because the government is still fighting lawsuits to keep them hidden–they are out there, including a video of a 12yr old boy being ass-fucked in front of his father to extract “cooperation”…
stay tuned…
If they’re hidden, how do you know the videos not only exist, but what is on them?
There are more out there if you dig for them.
I see what you’re saying but none of them have any sort of proof that such a thing actually occurred. If they do and I just sort of missed it while reading everyone of your cites, please feel free to enlighten me.
If such a thing actually did happen, then I’d be the first in line to string the responsible fucker up by the balls as an example but until then, it’s just more hearsay evidence.
If your idea of a cite includes such accusations that are, frankly, baseless with no sort of proof whatsoever, then I may have to rethink my position on how I view your posts.
That a child was raped in front of his father, no. And I did not mean to present evidence in support of that. That children were raped, and that the rape was filmed, yes.
Will do.
Your threat notwithstanding:
The firmest cite to use would be, I’d wager, when NBC News cited military officials who confirmed that there was a video, shot by US personel, showing children being raped by Iraqi guards.
You might’ve missed it:
Now, I’m not sure how much of that you want to term baseless and with no proof, but I’d say that the testimony of US military officials who’d seen the tape would be considered a valid cite.