Finishing schools???
You really are living in the past aren’t you.
What sort of neurotic freak is made uncomfortable by someone drinking a glass of milk?
Sign up today for Shagnasty’s School of the Social Graces.
Motto: “Don’t be a simpleton when we can make you a snob.” 
I’m not the one condemning people because they picked the “wrong” drink.
*How does demanding extraneous fruit make other people comfortable? I was brought up to believe that it is bad manners to make a big fuss about my order or to do things that needlessly make the server’s job more difficult. I have no objection to a lemon wedge with my soda, but I certainly am not going to make a special request for one.
*I graduated from a very fine, genteel, private women’s college in the South. I have been in bars and restaurants on three continents. I have never insisted that my soft drink come with a piece of fruit though, and no one has ever batted an eye. I guess I associate with a better class of people than you after all.
Would ordering a ginger ale be considered “unsophistocated?” I like milk, but I only like to drink it when I’m eating something very sweet or very rich.
So would ginger ale pass your test, Shagnasty? :rolleyes:
Do you really think the OP’s friend dumped the girl because she had a glass of milk in a wine bar? Try and read between the lines a bit and stop being so painfully obtuse. She had probably displayed her lack of sophistication in a myriad other ways and this was a somewhat comical coup de grace. No doubt that Shag threw in a little hyperbole for added effect. Lighten the fuck up already. Get some exercise. See a shrink. Get yourself laid by a real person.
Maybe if you remember the lemon or lime. It’s rude unless there’s lemon or lime on it. All the leading etiquette experts agree!
Oh wait, they don’t. In fact, I do not believe that any etiquette authority has ever suggested any such thing. They may say that it is polite to make a lemon wedge available to your guests, but certainly not that a guest or customer must request such a thing. In fact, that “rule” (which fortunately does not seem to exist outside Shagnasty’s mind) would run contrary to the intent of etiquette. Shagnasty can say what that is, but he obviously doesn’t understand it – it’s about making other people feel comfortable.
Wm. of Ockham would be so proud.
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I’m going to ask you this again. Sez who? I have about twenty years experience in the bar/restaurant business and I have never heard of such a thing. You teach etiquette do you? Using what text? Can you provide a cite for the inappropriateness of ordering milk in a bar?
I’d like to see a cite as well.
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No, no - I think you are confused. Obviously Stonebow intended to say that ordering human milk is well outside the normal parameters of what is socially acceptable.
And I, for one, agree. I think snubbing an adult who insisted on being served human milk is entirely right and proper as it is an obviously excessively burdensome request to make on bar management :).
- Tamerlane
I think you are all missing the obvious! Examine the facts:
- Man takes girl to bar.
- People drink things at bars that can intoxicate them.
- The freshness of the milk in bars is highly suspect, possibly soured.
- Girl orders milk.
Clearly this woman is a lizard-like alien.
Really? I got the impression from other threads on this board that NO ONE has EVER spoken in real life like Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins! 
Motherfucking Earth ! Where we drink wine in our wine bars dammit!
Ok…maybe I’m getting a little carried away. It still seems wierd to me. Not dealbreaker wierd but still odd.
You apparently aren’t following the chain of conversation here. We absolutely know that this guy was turned off by the woman for not having ordered wine or beer at a wine and beer bar because Shagnasty said so right in the original story that spawned this entire thread. What we don’t know, and what I challenged Stonebow on, is whether he would’ve been less turned off by her having ordered coffee or club soda as opposed to milk, thereby making his allegation that there is an appropriate “middle ground” that would’ve been considered inoffensive, inaccurate at best and idiotic at worst. Here, I’ll repost the relevant part of the story for you, with the important parts highlighted…
Get it? He dumped her because she didn’t order beer or wine. Period. There were no other concerns up to then. And further, there is no evidence he wouldn’t have been exactly as appalled if her choice had been club soda with a twist.
Reading for comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it? Nobody, least of all me, is condemning the man for not wanting to pursue a relationship with this woman. In fact, many (if not all) of us have either admitted that they were clearly not right for each other, that she was better off without someone who would judge her based on that alone, that sometimes attraction (or lack thereof) is random and unexplainable, or that that’s not even the fucking POINT of this thread.
Again, for the brain cell impaired:
Either it’s rude and childish for a “picky eater/drinker” to impose their idiosynchrasies on others, causing them to have to miss out on cool/fancy/swank dining and drinking establishments, or it’s childish and unsophisticated to “gladly accept” an invitation without restrictions and politely order to your own liking without inhibiting your host in the slightest.
You. Cannot. Have. It. Both. Ways.
Ergo, Shagnasty’s Worst Analogy Ever.
And no one will ever convince me that the “flow” of the evening was somehow “ruined” by her ordering a non-alcoholic drink, even if it was milk, at a wine and beer bar. That’s just utterly absurd.
So let me do my own version of your summary of what we know so far:
Suzie made an unusual but perfectly legal choice in libation.
Mr. Bigbux concluded that someone who made such a choice was not his type. Absolutely NO other factors may or may not have contributed to his decision, seeing as how “they were hitting it off pretty well” up to that point, yet immediatly upon her ordering… “Scrrrreeeechhhh!”.
Suzie, whom we all agree would have been better off in a different relationship, is, in fact, in a different relationship, much to her obvious benefit.
Shagnasty appears to be an “unsophisticated” “simpleton” unable to relate an appropriate analogy to try to make his point.
Man and woman go to bar – do not wed! What an amazing story.
BTW, did she order chicken nuggets and Mac & Cheese for dinner?
More importantly, man and woman go to bar, do not fuck.
I wonder how the anti-milk-in-a-bar crowd would feel about the obverse scenario: someone who wanted alcohol when none was available. A while back, someone posted an anecdote about a guy they knew or were related to who wanted a strawberry margarita in an Indian restaurant. He presented his case to the waiter: “I know you have a blender because you had to puree the dahl. And I know you have ice, and I know you have strawberries.” When someone quietly pointed out that what the restaurant didn’t have was tequila, he responded, “Well, can’t someone go to the liquor store and get some?”
That is a simpleton. Not to mention a boor.
However, I’ll say this before anyone thinks I’m bolstering Shagnasty’s testimony. If you’re in a bar or restaurant, and you order something that’s available, then who gives a fuck? Mr. Gotbux wasn’t the one who had to scare up some milk, so how did it affect him?
One of the signs of alcoholism (early stages) is wanting everyone around you to drink as well. Of course, when you get to the late stages, you do a lot of drinking alone. But meanwhile, if you’re uncomfortable drinking with someone who’s having a non-alcoholic beverage, that IS ABOUT YOU.
Well, I assumed that the reason you didn’t pursue her was because she made a disparaging remark about your viewing choices. Unless you neglected to tell us, you kept your opinion of her viewing choices to yourself. So it wasn’t her choices, it was her attitude.
(And now I’m hearing Max Von Sydow in Hannah and Her Sisters: “Can you imagine the level of the mind that watches wrestling?” That clip was part of a montage that started off the documentary Beyond the Mat. Hey, a docu about wrestling! Wonder if she’d ever give that a shot?)
And for the necessity of ordering a lemon or lime with your soft drinks. I’d really like to see that.