Shallow Hal offensive

Short and to the point, but not very creative.

I give it 6.0 on the troll-o-meter.

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what’s my comeback rating on your troll-o-meter?

I substituted “nazi” for “skinny” and jewish" for “fat” in the above sentence and come to the conclusion that you sir (or ma’am), are a bigot of the worst order;)

My “favorite” parts of Anders critique is where she gives excuses for why people are obese- rape, abuse, genetics, molestation, binge dieting, etc… and claims that size is not any more controllable than skin color. Isn’t this more offensive, claiming that most fat people are obese due to heavy emotional/psychological scarring?

“But I am offended by the increasing use in movies of prosthetic blubber. This practice of skinny actresses donning fat suits is essentially the new and acceptable blackface in Hollywood.”- oh, a whole two movies now? Does “Some Like It Hot” or “Nuns on the Run” offend you with their cross-dressing antics, with gender roles subsitited for race?

Well, sure, if I want to be as much of an asshole as the person is who made the rude remark to begin with.

But I don’t want to be that much of an asshole.

stoid

I think one reason some are more offended by this movie than Nutty Proffessor and Austin Powers: the Spy Who Shagged Me is because it’s a woman in the fat suit. Speaking as a large man, I believe the term is Jabba-the-Hutt-lookin’-mofo,I can tell you that society is much crueller to overweight women than to overweight men.
That said, what is with all of you people who haven’t even seen the movie complaining? You do realise how ignorant that makes you look, right.

Zero. It’s not even original; that line has whiskers on it. Where’d you learn it, on a playground?

I’m rubber and you’re glue . . . ooh, how clever.

Originally posted by aramis

I don’t.

Really, truly, I don’t.

I’ve dated men who were significantly richer than I ever was or ever will be, and I definitely don’t want to do it again. In every relationship in the world–from that of a parent and child to that between nations–money is power. If you stay with a rich man long enough, he’ll believe that he owns you. He’ll think of your relationship as his “having” you, in the same way he “has” his car, or his horses, or Great-grandpapa’s watch. He’ll start to think that he can remake you to his specifications, and that, as with his Italian leather couch, he can unload you easily when he gets tired of you.

Either that, or he gets annoyed when you aren’t his financial equal. He starts to resent the fact that he always has to pay if he wants to include you in the kinds of entertainment to which he’s become accustomed. Or he feels embarrassed and uncomfortable to be in your dingy student apartment. Or he doesn’t quite know what to say when you tell him that you’ve been paying your rent by loading boxes on the night shift.

As far as fame goes–I don’t particularly want to have a famous significant other, or to be famous myself. It seems to me like it would be a lot more trouble than it’s worth.

Well, I am poorer than dirt, so I dig the fact that not all women look for wealth and fame. However I must be even sided and stand up for some of these guys. In general, I’m sure you’re right… but I know 2 men who are wealthy, but you would never ever know it. They shop at Wal Mart, they eat fast food, they have a car that… gets them around, and live in a regular apartment. Women LOVE these gents, however one is gay. Hell, if I were into men I would totally dig him! TOO BAD FOR ME, I’M NOT… DAMNIT!

I haven’t seen the movie, but I’ve seen much of the promotion. I don’t know how it turns out, but I have this to say. Hal sees the inner beauty in Rosemary as “skinny”. So, isn’t he still basing his attraction on looks? Yes, she’s actually overweight, but he’s been hypnotised to see her as skinny. Why does that make him any less superficial?

[disclaimer]Like I said, I don’t know how it turns out. I heard that he ends up seeing her as fat, but I don’t know his reaction, so I can’t comment on anything other than what I know.[/disclaimer]

In the beginning i really wanted to see the movie but the more i saw trailers the more i didn’t want to see it…I have lost 100 lbs in the last year, have some more to go…I did not have too much of a say in the beginning about my weight because i was sick but didn’t know (pcos, insulin resistent) I changed what i needed to change to lose weight, ANyway as a soon to be skinny woman :slight_smile: I could not bring myself to watch the movie, If i wanted to hear fat jokes i could hang out at my inlaws. For me, it just makes me uncomfortable, even if i was skinny. Can’t really explain it. I also think that even though there are some overweight people who can help it , There are others like me who couldn’t until they got the right help. that be my two cents

I could not finish its someething about mary either, the jokes about her brother just bugged me

From what I understand of the movie (I haven’t seen it yet, so I can’t say definitively) Hal is the kind of guy who will only date “hotties.” He is then put under a spell (hypnotized, something to that effect) so that he only sees the inner beauty. But he’s still shallow, they didn’t change that. So in order for this spell to work, he sees inner beauty as outer beauty. In other words, in order for him to be attracted to a woman with inner beauty, he must view the inner beauty as outer beauty. I would think it would work in reverse as well; if an evil bitch walked by, she would be portrayed as hideous because of the spell, even if she were a physical beauty. But like I said I haven’t seen the movie yet, so I don’t know if that’s true.

Did I explain that, or make it more confusing?

Yeah but, he doesn’t realize that he’s seeing her inner beauty. All he sees is another “hottie”, so he’s still attracted to her appearance. Or am I missing something.

WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD

Ok, I haven’t seen the movie, so technically I can’t answer that. But this is from the official website:

Hal, envisioning Rosemary’s kindness and humor as female physical nirvana, is instantly smitten and an idyllic romance begins. When the spell is broken, Hal must now face an unrecognizable Rosemary and learn one of life’s most important lessons.

So apparently he falls in love with her and then the spell is broken. The only reason the spell exhibits the inner beauty as outer beauty is because if it didn’t, Shallow Hal wouldn’t consider going out with a woman who’s less-than-perfect on the outside. When he finally finds the woman he wants to spend his life with, the spell is broken, and he sees her as someone who he never would’ve considered before, yet he already loves her.

So eventually, when the spell is broken, he does realize what happened. And then will likely come the predictable Hollywood romance happily ever after ending. But it looks like a funny movie anyway.