Thanks so much, Hollywood....I get your message loud and clear.

I wrote this up in my journal earlier today, but I decided that my ire was high enough to merit a public rant.

I went to see Planet Of The Apes over the weekend, and one of the previews was for a movie called Shallow Hal, starring Jack Black and Gwyneth Paltrow. The premise of the movie is that Hal (Jack Black) is a very shallow person, and all he cares about is scoping out good looking women. How someone looks is all that matters to him. Somehow (this is not made clear in the preview) he gets some sort of spell cast on him so that he can only see a person’s “inner beauty”, not their real physical self. Sounds innocuous enough, right?

Here’s the offensive part. The interpretation of this ability to see only “inner beauty” also extends to being able to see “inner ugliness”…and to illustrate this newfound skill, we’re treated to a scene of the camera panning across a group of beautiful women in a bar…except the camera cuts away, and when it cuts back, these “beautiful” women are now “ugly”. Exactly how are they ugly, you might ask? I’m glad you asked. Unilaterally and without exception, all of the “ugly” women are portrayed as fat. Because, as you know, there’s nothing uglier than a fat person.

<pause while steam shoots out of Jadis’ ears>

This theme is carried over and over and over throughout the preview…and every time they show a woman who the audience previously thought was attractive, but upon discovering that woman’s “inner self” to be fat, the audience groaned in dismay. I’ve never been so humiliated to be associated with this culture in my life.

The preview goes on to show how Hal falls in love with this woman (whose character name I don’t recall, but she’s being played by Ms. Paltrow), and all he can see is her beauty…but everyone else sees a 300 lb woman. Horrors!! The implication is that everyone in Jack’s life cannot comprehend how he could possibly love this hideous, deformed, OVERWEIGHT!! beast.

I was physically ill, not only from the concept of the movie itself, but from the reaction of the people around me. Every time they showed snippets of scenes where the physical aspect of Hal’s beloved was apparent, there were constant snickers, noises of disgust, outright laughter. I honestly think that I might have been the only one in the theatre that didn’t laugh.

I can sort of see the underlying intent (that we should be looking beyond the physical), but it was executed very poorly, especially the way the preview was constructed in order to get laughs. I assume the film in its entirety will be the same…shots back and forth between the “attractive” and the “unattractive (i.e. fat)” in such a way as to deliberately provoke a laugh when the “unattractive” is shown.

If any attempt had been made to show people’s ugly side in any way other than merely being overweight, I might not have had such a problem with it…a single person with unkempt/greasy hair, someone generally geeky looking (hornrimmed glasses with tape on the corner), someone whose expression conveyed downright meanness underneath the pretty exterior, anything else. They did none of that…every example they showed made “ugly” synonymous with “fat”. That troubled me, as well as the reaction of the audience.

I can’t recall the last time I saw something so unfunny. I know that this attitude is pervasive in our society, but I was sickened to see it up on the big screen to be mocked openly and repeatedly. The message was there, over and over…overweight people are worthless and deserve our scorn, or disdain. It made me very sad. :frowning:

I was going to post a similar thread about this same subject.

The upcoming “The Princess Diaries” does the same thing, but with glasses.
Poor little ugly four-eyed girl is magically transformed into a princess, and how did they do it?
Why, they took off her glasses!!!

Hollywood always does that. How do we know the character is UGLY? Because she is either FAT or wears GLASSES.

Grrrrr, I hate that!

Anybody see “The Truth About Cats and Dogs,” where Janeane Garofalo plays the “ugly” girl and Uma Thurman is the “knockout”? I had to lie down with a cool washcloth on my forehead . . .

Julia Roberts is the ugly sister in America’s Sweethearts. :rolleyes:

Or has curly hair. Goodness knows how women like Keri Russell and Juliana Marguiles can face the world :rolleyes:.

Oh, and Eve? It took an ice bag to soothe me.

Jadis, I pretty much had the same reaction as you when I saw this preview. I sat there, getting pissed off and not really wanting to believe it. I noticed the same reaction as you did from most of the people in the theater, including a number of overweight people. I don’t offend easily, but damn…

Another example of Hollywood “reality” - Halle Berry was the plain, undesirable one in “Boomerang.” Yeah, right.

First, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. Hollywood panders to their expectation of the audience.

Minor correction - they weren’t showing the inner ugliness. The point was he kept seeing all the “ugly” (i.e. fat) women as beautiful. The fat scenes were how everyone else saw her, the inner view was the skinny models. Your point still stands, just invert which was “real”.

Someone pointed out the movie pretends to be a lesson on seeing the inner beauty, but it’s by the Ferrelli brothers, and it’s really just laugh at the fat chick. It’s a lot of odd sight gags. Like Gwyneth Paltrow walking out onto a diving board that sags and bends way out of expected proportion. Then she jumps in to make a splash, and the splash is like a car fell in the pool. It’s just tacky. And it doesn’t even explain why Hal deserves to not be shallow.

You know what? I thought the girl in the Princess Diaries looked prettier BEFORE they made her over-I LOVED her wild, curly hair-hell, I’d KILL for my hair to look like that! And then they straighten it, and make her up, and she’s all perfect and perky and not as pretty.

Oh well…maybe at the ending of Shallow, it will turn out that the girl he loves is ACTUALLY fat in real life, and he doesn’t care? Not that THAT’s gonna happen…

This being Hollywood, the fat chick will probably become superthin in the end, via the hypnosis that makes the other character see inner beauty. Then the two of them will live happily ever after, having children who would be supermodels if it were not for their darn glasses…
Of course, its not like i find Gwyneth attractive, anyway, she needs some meat on her scrawny butt.

Oh.

You guys think that’s bad.

http://www.etonline.com/celebrity/a3291.htm

You ignorant, shallow, stupid whore. I can’t believe you said that.

You, too, can write to Gwyneth and tell her what you think of that comment.

Gwyneth Paltrow
c/o CAA
9830 Wilshire Blvd.
Beverly Hills, CA 90212

The only thing I can think of is: “Jack Black is playing the character judging fat to be ugly?” I mean, he’s a great actor and singer, and he is funny as hell, but he ain’t Mr. Olympia. In fact, he is defintely overweight (at least he was in every movie I have seen him in). If that isn’t a double standard, I don’t know what is.

I’m glad to see this thread.

I think perhaps the utter suckiosity of The Plant of the Apes made me forget this, but you mentioning this trailer brings it all back to me.

I watched it in amazement. Could the producers be that insensitive? Now, normally I’m a pretty non-PC guy, and even I found the whole premise for that movie offensive.

Meanwhile, the people around me are giggling and chortling away. I’m sitting there snorting and sighing. The woman next to me says to her date, “Oh that looks funny, we should go see that.”

I wanted to slap the ugly bitch. (Just kidding - see I’m un-PC. Hee hee.)

[sub]I don’t expect that last bit to go over even remotely well[/sub]

But I am serious in that that was the most offensive trailer I’ve seen for a movie in a loooong time. It’ll probably make a billion dollars.

This reminds me of the movie She’s All That. You know, the one where she was a nerd but then Freddie Prinze, Jr. decided to hang out with her or something and made her cool? (I haven’t seen the movie; maybe someone else will come along and clarify.) I seem to remember that in the previews, she wore baggy overalls with baggy button-up shirts and baggy everything and glasses. And also, she had her hair always tied up.

First: we get the point that she’s a nerd! It’s like when the costume designers designed the outfits, they were trying to see who could come up with the funniest, most bizarre outfit.

Second: you can’t take a Hollywood actress (who was it - Rachel Leigh Cook?) and put glasses on her and expect her to be an ugly loser (which is what I think they were going for?). Not everyone who has glasses is ugly, and not everyone who is ugly has glasses.

Third: what a totally bogus plot. I’m unattractive and a loser, but hot, popular guys aren’t making me over and taking me to prom and falling in love with me. Please. What makes anyone think that would happen in real life?

And Guinastasia?

Be careful for what you wish. I have hair like that and it can be a pretty big pain in the ass. But to each her own, right? :slight_smile:

I understand your complaints, but do y’all really think fat guys have it much easier?

So you know what to do folks? Hoot and holler at the fat women as if they were the beautiful ones in the film, and go ‘eww’ at the heroin-chic thin women. I know I will

I still remember the review from Entertainment Weekly when that came out- IIRC, “on what planet is Janeane Garofolo not attractive? Oh yeah, Hollywood”. But then, I liked that Janeane got the guy in the end without having to whore herself to the makeover, as is usual in this sort of flick.

Why not quote the whole of it?

It sheds a whole new light on that sentence. She feels sorry for the emotional drain overweight women experience and that normal weight (or underweight) women cannot understand how that feels. Is that so wrong? Poor wording (“pretty girl”) but you are twisting the meaning.

Oh and I agree with the OP.

If I remember the preview accurately (and I was so steamed, I paid way more attention than I normally would have to an otherwise obviously lame comedy), the only fat person that Hal is seeing as beautiful is Gwyneth Paltrow’s character. The other camera tricks that I’m referring to took place before Hal fell in love with GP. The scene that stands out in my memory is the one intended to portray his change in perceptions immediately after this hypnosis effect takes places…he’s scanning over a line of women standing at the bar, and they’re all typically rain-thin, done up to the nines, etc…then the camera cuts away for a second, then cuts back and all of a sudden, he’s seeing all of the women at the bar who are beautiful on the outside (per the pan we just witness) as overweight. Hence, my interpretation that in the mind of the director, ugly=fat.

The fat scenes that you’re thinking of are, indeed, the ones where GP is in her “fat mode” even though Hal can only see her beauty. I’m assuming that the producers thought that they’d be let off the hook for their revolting abuse of the fat=ugly myth perpetration by making GP the fat character, but it just doesn’t fly with me. I still see it for what it is: pandering to the absolute lowest common denominator…of which my particular theatre was in no short supply. :mad:

The same planet on which she and Kate Winslet are both considered “fat.”

The same planet on which she and Kate Winslet are both considered “fat.”