I’ve known a fair number of narcissists, lots of schemers, only a few psychopaths. I really wish I had never met them. But none of them were like Trump.
Yesterday I realized something important.
He’s a Ron. Ronald J. Trump.
My Trump is a Ron, too.
He will do anything and has the ability to spin it so he looks like the victim. Beat up his stepson and gave away his dog because the boy said something bad about his own son. Beat up a real estate broker. Stole his mother’s house from her because he needed a tax break. Messed with the 4 year old daughter of a famous person, and had the shit kicked out of him by the famouse person.
His standard apology was “I’m sorry if I made you feel bad.”
My roommate’s ex-girlfriend, affectionately nicknamed Crazy Bitch: Lost custody of both of her sons after Roommate’s best friend notified the boys’ father about her neglect and Munchausen-by-proxy abuse of the youngest boy. Losing custody meant that she lost about $1100 per month from her monthly whatever payment (I think it was disability from a trumped-up (ha!) injury when she was in the military), which pissed her off and started her on a vendetta against Roommate and his best friend. (Best friend lives in Canada, so good luck on that, Bitch.) Due to her persecution of Roommate and nutso behavior in the custody trials she is now on the shit list of every single sitting judge in the county.
She is now at least $40K overdue on child support payments. Betting is currently open on when that catches up to her and she moves to her new home in the Place of the Striped Sunlight.
My niece was married to a man for about three years, who was clearly a narcissist. He was (still is) a very talented Elvis Presley impersonator, and he could be exceptionally charming when it serves his interests.
He swept my niece off her feet (she was 18, he was ~26), and convinced her to move to Vegas with him when he got a gig at one of the Vegas casinos. She did, and they then got married within 2 hours of arriving in Vegas.
To say that their marriage was tumultuous would be an understatement. He clearly viewed her as a trophy, and alternately showered her with gifts, and emotionally belittled her for slights, real and imagined. He was insanely jealous if she would as much as talk to another man, while he was having affairs left and right. On three different occasions, he literally kicked her out of their apartment in the middle of the night during an argument (and, twice, I footed the bill to fly her home to Wisconsin from Vegas when he did so).
At one point, when she was back in Wisconsin (before returning to him in Vegas), he flew up to Wisconsin to convince her to take him back. She agreed…and, then, she found out that, the very next day, he went on from Wisconsin to a gig elsewhere in the Midwest, and while at that gig, had a hookup with a groupie.
She spent a long time in denial about how badly he would treat her, but when he tried to cut her off from contact with her mother and the rest of her family, she had finally had enough. She left him, and eventually divorced him (the divorce was finalized about a year ago). At the divorce hearing, he popped off to the judge about how awesome he was, and how he’d been unfairly treated by the courts throughout the process – the judge actually told his lawyer to get his client to shut up before he was thrown in jail for contempt!
Even after the divorce, my niece still finds signs that he’s occasionally stalking her. She lived with a new boyfriend for a few months, and they once came back to their house to find that a few of her personal items (which they were assuming that the ex had thrown away when my niece left him) were sitting on their front steps.
Personality disorders aren’t black & white. You have them or you don’t. They’re all a continuum of good to worse. Sometimes, personal intervention can be helpful, sometimes not. Sometimes, intervention by law enforcement can be helpful… sometimes, not.
My all time favorite was a man who demanded that his wife and daughter build a giant cross in their back yard & then nail him to it. I’m sure that you can just imagine the 20+ years of hell that they tolerated leading up to this point. I was surprised that they sought help for him rather than just nail him to the thing. In the end, of course, medical intervention was required for him and counseling was very helpful to the wife & daughter.
I’ve known three basically at his level or beyond; two married each other and have had a fantastic life together. The third has been married and divorced a couple times but is enjoying life and doing quite well. I have sometimes wished they had been somehow unhappy (which I guess says something about me) but that just wasn’t the case.
My ex-SIL might qualify. She was a divorcee when she married my husband’s brother, who has some mental and emotional problems. She literally treated him like a pet during their marriage - wouldn’t let him work, left him home alone while she worked, honest-to-goodness patted him on the head like a cocker spaniel.
She also turned in her own father to the IRS for non-payment of taxes to collect a reward, then couldn’t understand why he didn’t want to see her again. I seem to recall she was estranged from her mother, too.
Then one day she called me (??) to say we had to come and get my BIL because she couldn’t take it any more. My inlaws drove from Florida to (I think) Kentucky to bring him home, and he had nothing - *nothing *- but the clothes on his back. He was losing his teeth, he was haggard, and he was overweight from the horrific diet. Who knows how long it had been since he’d had a veggie.
When filing the divorce papers, she said she’d set up a bank account for him and deposit a certain amount every month. Well, she opened the account, put in $50, and that was it. Then that year, she forged his name on their tax return and didn’t bother paying, so the IRS came after my BIL. He ended up paying her taxes that year.
Fast forward - BIL’s in much better health, he’s learned to drive and he has a car and a job. We heard his whack-job ex had married again! Maybe she kept going after damaged men - I don’t know. I do know, fortunately, she was never able to reproduce, so there’s that.
Actually, I CAN think of a very Trump-like character.
He was incredibly ambitious and an unrepentant horndog. He hit on women blatantly, in crude and obnoxious ways, even though he was extremely intelligent, highly educated, and should have known better. But women who complained were always scorned, mocked, disbelieved, or ignored.
This guy was a real user, too. Every time he got in trouble, he threw somebody else under the bus, and he always got away with it, too. Somebody else was always left holding the bag for his countless misdeeds. NOTHING was ever his fault, and everyone who ever tried to hold him accountable was made to look like an asshole.
So, how did he end up? Glad you asked- he served two terms in the White House, and his wife is about to do the same.
Sorry, but scummy folks DON’T always get the comeuppance they deserve.
Well, in fairness, the man did get impeached. And, years later, he had to listen to a giant orange man with tiny hands complain a great deal. So, it’s not like he got away without paying a price.
Please people, let us know how the people ended up. What became of them, in the end, as far as you know?