I don’t think it came out of nowhere. I suspected Amma from episode 2 I think.
And it’s not unconnected. Amma’s mental condition is closely related to Adora’s.
Yes and no? I mean, Adora is abusing Amma, and Amma then turns around and (with her friends) murders girls. Girls who Adora is close to, so presumably who Amma is jealous of because they are taking focus away from Amma.
Needing the teeth for the ivory floor is creepy as fuck and comes out of nowhere, but the connection between mother and daughter is definitely laid down all along the run of the series.
There were two things going on…Adora killing Marian through Munchausen, and Amma killing Ann and Natalie because she was messed up by Adora. Camille was also messed up, even though she escaped the MBP as a child. And of course, Adora was messed up by her mother…
While I pretty much liked the series, a few things come to mind. In no particular order - how could Camille cut words so clearly into her own back? Amma is supposed to have built that whole doll house herself? It appears to be the work of a master craftsman, not some kid. Richard points out the the needle-nose pliers match the marks in the victims’ mouths. From a forensics standpoint, I call BS. This wasn’t a pry bar on a windowsill. Camille’s rape by the football team looked semi-consensual to me. Like a rite of passage or something. Maybe I’m mis-remembering but I thought, at the time of the episode, she had a look of “Let’s just get this over with” and that it was known sick “tradition” of some kind. Finally, we have a pretty nice sound bar on our TV but it seemed as though much of the dialogue was whispered and were always turning up the volume. Maybe its just my aging ears. Overall, I’d give the series a solid B.
Close captioning can be a godsend!
Wouldn’t Amma’s fingerprints be on the pliers? And can we assume she got the pig to “practice” pulling teeth? :eek:
:smack: The pig; that’s right! I forgot about that, and at the time I didn’t put it together, which is kind of stupid since we saw Richard to the very same thing.
At first I blustered at the suggestion of doing a second season but it would be kind of fascinating to see how each of the three female lead’s childhoods led them to the fucked up ladies they turned out to be. We saw quite a few snippet’s of Camille’s but there’s so much more there, and I’d really be interested in Adora’s upbringing.
Let’s get Gillian Flynn to write it first!
There’s so such thing as “semi-consensual”. Consent is black and white.
Camille herself referred to it as consensual. Then again she’s pretty fucking damaged. Looks like it was an exploitative ritual maintained by peer pressure and tradition. Whether it technically met the definition of rape would be a tough one in court, but it is just one more sign of how fucking warped that town is.
That makes no sense. She already successfully killed and extracted teeth at that point.
The AV Club says that Amy Adams has stated in no uncertain terms there will be no second season, partly because it’s a standalone book without a sequel, and partly because she found it so draining to inhabit the head of such a fucked up character. So unless Gillian Flynn writes a sequel and Amy Adams has a serious change of heart (or maybe it focuses on someone else), I don’t think we’ll be seeing a second season.
I really have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand it is an exquisitely eve rites piece of art. On the other hand, why is so much of our great art dedicated to sick motherfuckers.
Like with Westworld, I’m really disturbed by the depths of the depravity depicted. That blip scene in the credits really haunts me. That triumphant grin. Ugh.
According to this article, she “keeps in touch” with her characters after the books are finished so she might already have something up her sleeve (IhopeIhopeIhope). As ** MaxTheVool ** already said, Amy Adams most definitely would not be in it but a prequel of some kind could easily work around that.
Did everyone catch the second clip in the credits? There is the attack scenes in the middle of the credits, but there is also one more very short scene at the very end.
For those who read the book, did the series track closely to the book? In the book does it end pretty much at the same point, with no sense of what happened next?
Well for the love of god, what happens in it?
Ok. I read the book and watched the series. I must say that the series followed the book extremely well. Kudos to HBO in pulling off a great adaptation.
As far as I can remember from the book the pig was killed by Amma, she slaughtered it. Camille saw her kill it and it was another example as to how detached Amma was.
The ending was similar, but not the same. There was a little more explination at the end of the book as to what happened to Amma after the discovery of the teeth. One thing I haven’t seen anyone mention is why Amma took the teeth, which they discussed in the book. For Amma everything had to be perfect and her Doll house was her attempts to make the home perfect. Everything had to match the current house. The reason for the teeth pulling was because Adora’s bedroom had ivory floors. Amma’s jealousy from not being the center of attention is what caused the murders, but the teeth were a trophy/essential element to match her dollhouse to her mother’s “perfect” home.
There is a quick shot showing that Amma was the Woman in White