Should the US agree to take a share of the refugees trying to seek asylum in Europe?

Fwiw, they have a huge rate of start up businesses when they come in, mainly because no one wants to employ them. Absolutely ideal for deprived inner cities - transformational. No idea where they get the start up money from.

Put 5,000 Syrians in Baltimore and it’ll be Seattle in a decade …

He could also send an army of magical unicorns to spread happy dust all across Syria and stop the war. But it’s probably even more unlikely. Our own special forces - just as well trained and far better equipped than Spetznaz - couldn’t win a war in Afghanistan alone in 10 years, despite enough bribe money to build every Afghani his own palace. Thinking the Russians can just send in a platoon and win the war in Syria to destroy ISIS is ridiculous.

The US could not win in Afghanistan, because we never descended to the brutality required (destruction of civilian population, no surrender tactics). Putin will have ISIS completely destroyed, and no one will complain.

Well, I’m convinced. All hail Lord Putin!

Exactly. Witness the unbridled Soviet success in Afghanistan 35 years ago.

This seems like a good question. Why aren’t refugees traveling to Saudi Arabia and from there to other Gulf States? Seems a bit closer than Germany, and no large bodies of water to cross on dangerous rafts.

Well that’s at least three incomparable situations compared; any more - first one who shouts ‘Vietnam’ wins a freshly minted passport of their choice.

There arent nearly enough Russian special forces to get the job done. But drop em all in Syria/Iraq. It will ease the situation in the eastern Ukraine.

Because it’s really hard to travel a thousand miles on foot to non-desolate areas of Saudi Arabia. 3 million have fled to Turkey and Jordan.

It’s 350 miles from Damascus to Tabuk, Saudi Arabia, which isn’t desolate.

Tabuk is on the other side of Jordan.

I see no reason why any disempowered person should be expected to fix whatever violent chaos is being perpetrated by hooligans of their ethnicity and/or political-regional identity. By that logic,

[Godwin alert]
… the Jewish people living in Germany should logically have risen up and taken Germany out of the hands of the Third Reich, and any of them who instead attempted to get the hell out of there should be viewed as cowardly and weak
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Nor for that matter is there any reason to specify “miltary aged males”; if it is cowardly for a 190 pound 25 year old healthy man to want to get away from a land infested with crazyass machinegun-toting violent people driving around in jeeps, it isn’t markedly less cowardly for 11 year old girls or 88 year old wheelchair-bound gentlemen to do the same, since as individuals they aren’t going to be appreciably better equipped to fix the problem.

You can also view it as a tactical retreat if you wish. If military aged males (or anyone else) are going to mount a resistance it may be first necessary to get away from the chaos and regroup and seek alliances and do some planning from some place where they aren’t running as fast and as far as possible just to survive from moment to moment.

No way, really? :rolleyes:

Whereas the Soviets were so successful in Afghanistan.

It is not the German Jews’ fault that German soldiers outnumbered Jewish civilians 10 to 1. It is Iraq’s fault that their soldiers can outnumber ISIS’s fighters 15 to 1 and still be routed.

We should definitely take in more people. Allow special fast-tracked immigration from countries that are war-torn, ruled by dictators, or in shambles. These people have suffered enough. Lowering the average household income of all Americans by a few dollars so these people can survive is the right thing to do

At least they probably won’t decide to go to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Rob

Even if we do agree to accept some unknown number of refugees, how do they get here and who pays for that?

Why doesn’t the moslem world help out with this? surely Turkey, iran, SA, Egypt can take them?

Yeah. I mean, Iceland agreed to take 50. When is Turkey going to stand up and do their part, what with their hosting a measly 1.9 million Syrian refugees?

2.1 million are in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon.

350,000 Syrians have applied for asylum in Europe’s 37 countries since the start of the conflict.