America is the leader of the free world

What a fucking joke.

America is too fucking scared to take any Syrian/Muslim refugees. Well the rest of the free world that share our values are showing a lot more courage. And let me tell you, cowardice does not help to hold a following.

I feel shame. I feel betrayed. I used to hold your country in high regard. But when I hear that 53% of Americans follow the Republican governors with “not in my back yard” I can only feel that we are all fucked .

Even if Obama prevails, the memory the current American attitude towards the refugees will not be erased.

And to think that American leadership created the refugee crisis in the first place in 2003.

Here in Canada we are going to take in 25,000 refugees before the end of the year.

Fuck you America

We’ll own that.

Meh.

What a fucking joke.

America is too fucking scared to take any Syrian/Muslim refugees. Well the rest of the free world that share our values are showing a lot more courage. And let me tell you, cowardice does not help to hold a following.

I feel shame. I feel betrayed. I used to hold your country in high regard. But when I hear that 53% of Americans follow the Republican governors with “not in my back yard” I can only feel that we are all fucked .

Even if Obama prevails, the memory the current American attitude towards the refugees will not be erased.

And to think that American leadership created the refugee crisis in the first place in 2003.

Here in Canada we are going to take in 25,000 refugees before the end of the year.

Fuck you America

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If you lived here, you would have felt betrayed much sooner. Americans* suck.

*except those of us who are better than those that suck.

What is the mexican-syrian exhange rate these days?

A handful of right-wing idiots are not “America”.

Keep in mind, a bunch of kids hoping for a hot meal and a place to sleep where nobody is trying to kill them. Maybe some clothes, and a soccer ball. How long can we afford such lavish expenditure?

That handful represents more than half the states, so it’s at least"Amer."

I mean, I don’t care if we take 50,000 Syrian refugees from a safety perspective. My concern is more along the lines of why is it our responsibility? I’m tired of the U.S. stepping up to the plate all the time. I don’t really care if you make the argument we’re responsible or not responsible for the Syrian civil war. Foreign relations should be about the best interests of your country, not adherence to ideals almost no other country cares about.

I’d also like to know what’s up with all European countries spending so little on defense but speaking so frequently about a war on ISIS. Or Canada for that matter. Before the Paris attacks Trudeau had already said he was going to bring Canada’s planes back and end their involvement in bombing ISIS. What’s funny is no one actually cares because it’s four planes. Four. A U.S. aircraft carrier carries 50-65 of them (we aren’t at present actually using carrier launched planes against ISIS–I’m just illustrating for comparison.)

NATO guidelines suggest spending 2.0% of GDP on defense. NATO isn’t an alliance of pacifist countries, it’s a military alliance. I question why countries are in it not willing to maintain a military, the only real answer is they are in it to get the benefits of the American military and not have to pay for one of their own. The U.S. spends 4.4% of GDP on defense, only the UK, Greece and Estonia hit or exceed the 2% recommendation threshold. Canada spends 1%.

It’s great you guys are doing your fair share with refugees, maybe we can go ahead and say since you aren’t remotely doing your fair share in the war with ISIS (which your government and all the NATO governments agree is necessary) we call it square? Or maybe you’d like to double defense spending up there and meet your NATO obligations and stop leeching off our military?

Like I said, I have no problem with America taking refugees under the current system. I think some of the refugee programs used in France and Germany and a few other countries, historically (dating back to France granting Algeria its independence) has allowed too much influx of people for which their societies have not properly adjusted. But America is larger and able to absorb people easier, and also is frankly, less bad at integrating immigrants (even with all of the Trump/stupid party rhetoric these days, look at how integrated most American immigrant populations are–including our Muslim immigrants in places like Michigan.) But I dunno, I kinda don’t like countries that don’t do their fair share under the NATO treaty bitching at us about, pretty much anything. Especially things relating to major wars.

Again, foreign policy is supposed to be about self interest. Since Canada refuses to meet its military obligations and chooses to leech off of American military spending, I think that Canada’s leaders understand foreign policy is about self interest. America’s leaders have not understood this probably since Richard Nixon was in the Oval Office. Our first move should be to push for Arab allies throughout the Middle East to take more of these refugees. Why has Turkey (a non-Arab country) taken so many of them and many rich, uber rich in fact, Arab countries have taken so few? Europe and the United States should be the “backstop” for the refugee problem, not the front line.

These Arab states sell oil that is largely guaranteed a place in the market because the United States has committed to keeping the Straits of Hormuz open in past periods of Iranian fits of rage at great cost to us. We get nothing in return (other than wealthy gulf state residents funneling millions to ISIS while their governments ignore it.)

Here in Canada,

So don’t get on your high horse. It would seem that we’re exactly the same. And a promise to take in 25,000 does not equal reality. We’ll need to fight the 54% to make it happen.

Here’s an interesting article highlighting just what I’m talking about: link, Hollande crying for us to kill ISIS faster.

I’m sorry, but it’s time Europe and its hundreds of millions of residents, with its massive economy, start to defend itself again. If you want overseas involvement on a larger scale, build a military capable of doing so. The size of some European military forces, and their force projection capabilities, are largely embarrassing. A country as rich as France should be capable of conducting its own activities in a region like the Middle East.

For good or ill, we are the ones who have the planes, and the bombs, etc. They don’t. So, we put everything on hold until they catch up?

I’m sure Uncle Sam would take a check for the bombs even if it was Euros or Loonies.

The Luftwaffe has over 300 planes, per wikipedia. And they are smaller than Italy, France and the UK.

The European Union has plenty of aircraft to execute their own bombing runs. They also have plenty of troops that they can send in if they so choose.

The United States is bigger, but they are far from unarmed.

Really? If someone offered you a bowl of candy and you knew most of the pieces were poisoned, would you start snarfing down the candy?

It is a given that a large number of the “refugees” are terrorists. They’ve already been bragging about how they have infiltrated European countries by masquerading as refugees. But we’re “scared” to take them in.

Dude, the word is smart, not scared. But Obama’s gonna do his best to get them in here, anyway.

But if the US takes in refugees then you Canadians would have one less thing to sneer at the US for.

Largely in the middle, so I prefer to think that it’s just eric. Blame him.

You’ve already been called on this completely bogus piece of crap. You are repeating ISIS progaganda and doing their job for them.

ISIS wants the west to stop taking refugees in. You are helping ISIS do their work by spreading their propaganda and lies.

You’re simply a fucking terrorist supporter.