Should these 5 "bikini baristas" be charged with prostitution?

…'cuz that’s exactly what appears to be happening.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33003900/ns/us_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001

Essentially, these five (hot) young entrepreneurs are making a bit of tip money on the side by flashing vag, butt, and boobs during their regular gig of serving up drive-thru espresso in bikinis, and are now being charged with prostitution.

Is there some Washington state definition of “prostitution” which includes flashing for tips, but with no actual sex involved? I mean, I have seen ZERO mention of fellatio, intercourse, or, indeed, any kind of physical contact with the clientele.

It’s there, they just cleverly hid it in the first sentence of the article (and again in the second paragraph).

The very first paragraph says that clients were touching the women’s breasts and posteriors.

And no, I would probably not list such acts as “prostitution” personally, though I guess that must be how it is defined by Washington state law, so yes they should be charged with it (I guess).

I just wonder how many times the undercover cop had to go back before he was really truly certain that they were doing naughty things. :wink:

The eighth word in that article is “touch”.

:smack: Well, shit. Sorry.

OK, so the debate remains, I suppose. SHOULD just touching be included in the definition for prostitution?

Depends on what you’re touching them with, I suppose.

A 10 foot Euphonious Pole?

I, uhm, have heard that you aren’t supposed to put your hands on the strippers when getting a lap dance. That would leave me to believe that somewhere on the continuum is a line of touching the fun zones, and by crossing that line you engage in sexual acts.

Ok, as a former prostitute, to make sure my “johns” were not law enforcement, I would ask them to touch either my boobs or my crotch. To my knowledge, officers wont touch you. I’ve never had a problem.

I Am Not A Police Officer, but that sounds like a myth along the lines of “undercover cops have to admit it if you ask them if they’re a cop”.

Apparently I have paid for prostitution. Oops.

Good to know.

Whatever, just sharing my personal experience.

Officers do not have to tell you they are cops if they do want to. You are correct. However, what she is referring to is something a police officer is more than likely NOT going to do. There are instances of undercover cops having to do drugs in order to keep their cover or participating in other acts to keep hidden. However, I’d imagine most officers would not do it. Depends on how desperate they are for the bust I suppose.

True, but even the degree to which the rule is enforced (a.k.a “mileage”) itself often varies according to the club and the dancer . So it can happen that a dancer will offer that an extra generous tip, plus a separate one for the bouncer, will allow for touching; but the club is usually expected to officially advocate the no-touching rule.

The “Grab n Go”. Should have seen that coming.

FWIW, here in Tampa you’re not only allowed but encouraged to touch the strippers, although that varies by establishment.

They have a big sign at the city limit, right by *the BPOE welcome you to Tampa

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You know, I can’t help but think there’s something definitely wrong, or at least very schyzophrenic, about the fact that requiring your waitresses to dress like whores to sell coffee is legal and perfectly OK while them doing some actual whoring is illegal and gets complaints.

Make up your goddamn mind, America !

I don’t know about the vice cops, but I’m always desperate for the bust. :wink:
Edited to add: Gah! How can I post to this thread without drawing attention to the one linked in my signature! :smack:

<blush> It’s not that big.

The relevant laws are:

So touching somebody’s breasts or buttocks in return for a fee is prostitution according to Washington law. And watching two of the women touch each other would also qualify.