Which is precisely the goal of the tactic of obfuscation.
It must seem that way to you, I’m sure. Just like people who are wilfully ignorant would be baffled by how you could condone something by merely looking the other way. I did my best to help you learn and even set up a nice logical progression with several clear questions. Naturally you ignored them. I’m sorry but if you refuse to analyze the issue logically, I really can’t help you learn. You just go on thinking that the 9/11 Commission Report’s authors deliberately added a piece to the report saying they tried but failed to corroborate information, and then decided to include it anyways.
And that two groups of multiple people are one single guy.
All right. If you folks have gotten your bile out of your systems for the week, maybe this thread can move on.
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Aw man. One missing letter can send you off on a multipage screed, but simple direct question doesn’t even warrant three letters from you? How very disappointing.
ENOUGH!
Treis, your next crack like that will earn you a Warning.
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From what I’ve read, ahmadinejad’s support from his parliament and the supreme leader is crumbling…So can anyone address this point for me:
Is Ahmadinejad, basically, the only person who wants nukes in Iran?
Looks like a major operation went down in Iran against their nuclear facilities:
I’m pretty tickled by all this, because it’s attacking Iran’s nuke sites using the same methods they use to attack our interests. Turnabout is fair play.
If that were the case, there would be no nuclear program.
The article asks if this power line operation means if U.S. Special Forces are already inside Iran. Wouldn’t it be stupid if they weren’t already there?
Ahmadinejad serves at the pleasure of the Ayatollah and the Council of Guardians. He has no real power that they do not grant him. I suspect that he is currently useful to them as a lightning rod for criticism with his outlandish claims and boorish behavior, (diverting attention from the real power), and I am sure that he is allowed to perform his executive day-to-day functions without interfernce. However, long range planning and policy is almost certainly handed to him to pronounce, rather than something in which he engages.
Is it then fair to assume you’d have no problem knowing that Iranian special forces were operating inside the US? Or would you consider that an act of war?
I assume they probably are operating inside the U.S., although I don’t think they’ll be able to stop the U.S. nuclear program. I don’t want to see a war with Iran and I’ve said so in many discussions of this issue, but I also don’t want Iran to obtain nuclear weapons for a wide variety of reasons.
This doesn’t pass the basic smell test. We’d send ground troops ~300 miles into Iran just to blow up some power lines? That seems to be an extraordinary risk for a pretty small reward.
Would you be willing to vote in favor of a hypothetical attack on Iran in order to stop them from having nuclear weapons…with the ensuing (harrowing) consequences it is likely to bring?
Probably not, but what circumstances are you imagining around this vote?
Not sure I understand your question – it can be taken two ways. As in what would lead to such a vote or the circumstances resulting from such a vote.
Which way should I be parsing it in order to respond?
When and why am I being asked to vote? What are the circumstances?
Oh, OK. It was really a hypothetical. In actual fact you obviously wouldn’t be (asked to vote). So it’s more in the sense of backing such an attack if and when the US Gov determines it (Iran) has reached a ‘point of no return’ vis-a-vis making a nuclear weapon.
As for the possible (and more than likely) consequences of such an attack, surely you can think of many beyond the “mere” blood & treasure – which would both be huge. Simply closing The Strait of Hormuz would have repercussions beyond belief, likely including the final collapse of the Euro. Many more we can talk about if you’d like.
A centrifuge is a essentially a hollow cylinder spinner at massive speed. Abrupt, significant acceleration can break machinery, and pretty much anything else. Or, as stated explicitly in the cite you are challenging:
I’m still not sure why you think I asked for a list of consequences.
You didn’t. I lost control of my fingers.