9th - so have you decided who you are voting for? I remember when the primaries were going you were astauch Hill fan. Are you going to continue the democratic stance? Or Vote republican.
She seemed utterly fascinated about the vice-president’s duty of presiding over the Senate, which she seems to think is an ongoing, active duty rather than an intermittent duty to break a tie vote. I can see her, if she were to become veep, headin’ down to the Senate chamber every mornin’, just sittin’ up there on the big…bench…thingie, presidin’, ya know?
And what was with the winking?! It’s like she’s striving to be the biggest Shakopee, MN, PTA mom parody ever. Tina Fey should be sending this woman checks, because Palin is writing Fey’s SNL skits for her.
Um, you don’t see a sense of small town decency in Biden’s being a widowed father and raising his boys? Why does decency have to come with winks and you betchas like she was an extra in Mayberry? Frankly, Biden’s comment re going into Home Depot and asking folks if they think the last 8 years* have improved their lives is pretty down home.
*paraphrased. Have to go to work with no Dope there. 
Very presidential, that. The President of Pakistan, at least, might be swayed by a flirty wink. Might not be as helpful in a round of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, though.
Anyway, my wife was leaning against me as we watched, and I could feel her tense up every time Palin did something cute. My wife had never really seen Palin in action before, although she knew enough of her policies to oppose her on an intellectual level. Near the end of the debate, my sweet, kind wife, blurted out, “I hate her!” One wink too many.
She did an admirable job, IMO. No, of course Biden won any “debate,” and clearly showed far more mastery of every issue. But that is not what she intended to do. She said early on that she wasn’t going to respond to the questions if she didn’t want to. She used it as a means to appeal to some demographic of the electorate that is not me. Apparently a strident anti-intellectualism. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
That’s funny.
I told my wife Palin acted like she was tryin’ to come across like she was just talkin’ to ya at the grocery store. “Hi, Cheryl! How ya doin’? How’s Fred? The kids? Well, ya know, Billy’s gonna play Little League this year, and Sally’s gonna be th’ princess in the play…”
I’ll repeat what I’ve said before: I don’t want that type of person in or anywhere near the White House, unless they’re on a tour.
Yeah, I agree with this. I mentioned in another thread that I imagine there were a decent number of right-leaning independents who just wanted to make sure she didn’t belong in some sort of institution. Since she was able for the most part to put subject and verb together, they’ll be reassured enough to make a trip to the polls in November. I don’t think she did well enough by herself to close the gap with Obama, but I do think it is a very different race today than it was yesterday. I would think the Palin-is-a-disaster argument that had been coming from the right is gone now.
Or giving a tour! She’d probably be a pretty good, if not wholly accurate, tour guide!
Are you serious? Obama would mop up the floor with almost anyone here, and Biden would hold his own quite nicely, thank you. McCain would do at least as well as the majority of conservatives here. Only Palin would be out of her league. Don’t let what they’re saying for public consumption mislead you as to the actual knowledge level of most of these people.
I was annoyed when she was allowed to lie about the McCain statement that the economy is fundamentally sound. She said he was talking about and to American workers. Then she ran off praising the American work ethic.
He was responding like just like Bush, Paulson and Bernanke did. All is well.
People make her out to be worse than she really is. So what, she’s a bad interview. Thousands of very successful people fumble around in interviews. I’m no Palin supporter, but I’m already SICK of the attempts at discrediting her, nitpicking at her words and overall contempt for her whole being. Christ, get over it people ! She’s the VP candidate and that’s that. It sucks, but what can we do? She’s NOT stepping down. If you don’t like it, go do your duty and vote against her next month.
Why on earth would we want her to step down? She’s a gift for Obama supporters.
I think we’ll get over it, on November 5, after Obama wins! 
At least, I sure as hell hope he wins.
Well, the thing is that there’s a minimum standard for being a viable candidate for national office, and its qualifications include being able to speak intelligibly (not necessarily intelligently) in public, to the media, on one’s feet, to difficult questions, about complex subjects, with some grounding in recent history, etc. She has failed miserably (sometimes slightly less miserably) at meeting this minimum standard, and so she deservedly gets mocked, caricatured, made fun of, ridiculed, and turned into the butt of jokes. Get over it. If you don’t like it, then try to nominate a real candidate next time, not some Caribou Barbie Beauty Queen Six-Pack Swillin’ Momma who pretends to have executive ability based on governing a wide spot in the road and foreign policy credentials based on who flies 20,000 feet over her state next time.
I will gladly vote against her, and I’m betting a majority of my fellow voters will do the same.
I agree. I’m not sure about Biden, but you don’t get to be head of the Harvard Law Review by being dumb. I heard Obama on Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me before he became an official candidate, and that guy is fast.
Now Palin would be like one of the people who come in here sincerely thinking they have solid points, never having been challenged, get clobbered, and slink away, never to be seen again.
Biden has had more facts at his fingertips for over thirty years than you and I have ever had in our lives. He’d do just fine. So would McCain. His problem would be his temper.
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[li]Palin’s demeanor is very polarizing. There are some people who will find her very engaging - they just love her. And there are others who’s skin crawls with every word she utters or wink she gives. It’s hard to even say where the dividing line is. I think it’s more a personality thing even than a political thing. I’m right on that line for some reason. My brain switches modes where I think she’s very effective one minute and then I’m seriously annoyed the next.[/li][/QUOTE]
This was the biggest problem for her. I honestly think that Palin needs to watch the impression that Tina Fey does (with the sound on)simply because I don’t know if she realizes how she comes across. There was just too much winkin’ and just plain folks talkin’.
Yeah. The lack of “ing” drove me nuts too. I’m starting to think that her name is actually Sarah Paling and she just mispronounced so much that people dropped the “g.”
Overall, I think she stopped the hemoraghing from the Katie Couric interviews but failed to do anything else. Her answers were clearly rehearsed/memorized judging by her refusal to answer anything that wasn’t in the script. Her answers also lacked depth and heft to them. They weren’t much beyond talking points. If she could’ve given a bit of information, her down hominess would’ve outshone Biden’s policy wonkiness. Without it, she just looked unprepared or uninformed.
You’re probably right. I was going to say that some of us really prefer policy wonks, but then I realized those people were almost certainly already decided one way or another.