But I thought that Islam was the religion of Peace? That’s the line we’ve been fed since 2001, anyway.
But is seems you jump to the worst conclusions immediately and fail to look at what could be alternate explanations. Not that I’m much a fan of alternate explanations unless the simplest one proves to be incorrect.
It is a religion of peace, you ignorant fuck. *Al Qaeda and the like are no more representative of Islam than people who blow up abortion clinics are representative of Christianity.
No one on this board, liberal or otherwise has ever said that al Qaeda is “peaceful” or tried to defend them in any way. It’s not a surprise that any religion would have its whackos and it’s not a surprise that al Qaeda would cut some dude’s head off. It was a surprise that US soldiers would commit attrocities against civilians, not because Americans are any better than anyone else (we’re not) but because we are supposed to have a discipline and a structure in the military which would prevent soldiers from acting like animals.
A military leadership which would officially sanction torture has lost all credibility AFAIAC. I don’t believe a word they say. Why should I?
If it wasn’t for the picture from Abu Ghraib would anyone have believed Iraqi detainees about abuse, torture, rape and murder allegations?
I’m not taking the army’s word for a fucking thing anymore. A whole village is giving a different story right now and they have video to back them up.
“Kimmitt said video showing dead children killed was actually recorded in Ramadi, far from the attack scene.”
But, since the word of the military is dogshit to you, no explanation or evidence will suffice, will it? So if some Iraqi militants claim that the U.S. Army is lining up toddlers for target practice for their snipers, you’ll believe that even if there’s no evidence to back up that claim, right? Any claim that makes the entirety of the U.S. military look like incomparable sadists can be believed at face value, while any defense offered against those claims is automatically “dogshit”?
You give cynics a bad name.
The wedding party scenario has video to back it up as well the testimony of dozens of witnesses, local police and a local hospital. The military has nothing but its utterly worthless say so.
And it’s not like they haven’t massacred wedding parties before and then cleared themselves.
Your arguments are dogshit as far as I’m concerned, Diogenes.
Just kidding. But it’s disheartening that you seem to have decided not to evaluate each claim and the evidence for and against those claims on an individual basis, apparently opting to immediately discredit anything that the U.S. military says and believing whatever comes from the Iraqis.
From CNN:
“A senior coalition military spokesman said Saturday that dozens of people killed in a U.S. attack in the Iraqi desert early Wednesday were attending a high-level meeting of foreign fighters, not a wedding. Photos shown to reporters in Baghdad support that contention.” [emphasis mine]
And just how many Christians are beheading people? How many? Zero, asshole.
So if you wanna suck up to the terrorists, have at it, but you’ll be called out on it. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Photos of what? And how do they explain the videos of dead children? How do they explain all the witnesses who say it was a weeding party? Is it all a massive conspiracy on the part of Iraqi villagers to kill their own kids and frame the Americans for it? Is that really the simplest explanation or is it more likely that the military fucked up and is trying to spin its way out of it?
The military routinely lied about all kinds of things during Vietnam. I simply have no faith in anything they say.
Suck up to terrorists? SUCK UP TO TERRORISTS?
What the holy fuck are you talking about, you incontinent feeb?
How many Christians and/or Americans go about beheading people?
Oh wait, that would be ZERO. Fuck off.
How many Muslims blow up abortion clinics?
What the fuck is your point, dickweed?
While Muslims don’t generally blow up abortion clinics, some of them do BEHEAD innocent people. What is your point?
My point is that you don’t fucking have a point.
No, I do have a point. Why do some Islamists express their point by beheading?
Just wondering.
milroyj I think you need to learn to read, Diogenes the Cynic is actually saying that the members of Al Qaeda are indeed terrorists and evil, but just like George Bush once said, one has to differenciate between that and the ones that do follow good interpretations of the Koran.
Say, anybody got any “Fabreeze”?
This thread is fucking stale. I anticipate 30 posts of “Then why are you reading it?”
:rolleyes:
Something old, something new, something borrowed, something 9mm and hard currency
The same reason that some Christians like to shoot doctors or drown their own babies in the bathtub. Because they’re nuts. Their religion has nothing to do with it.
Oh yes, you’re right, Chritians are running around drowning babies in their baths. Not. Do you have anything else?