If I’m trolling you know where the report button is. Use it and if you are correct I’ll be banned. Since you know I won’t be banned based on your report of me trolling you know your accusations are false. What’s taking you so long?
You follow me around like a pathetic little stalker and you bleat troll troll troll. If you are sincere, and everyone knows you aren’t, report me.
He’s fighting for modern American conservatism, mostly. At least that’s my take. Not trolling, because he mostly believes in what he says.
My take Morgenstern, is that there’s a lot of truth in this accusation. Do you think there is some truth to it? I perceive more annoying-but-still-within-the-rules behavior (i.e. wholly permissible trolling) from you than from the average poster. Can you see why I would perceive things that way? I’m not getting a humorist vibe from you.
You just co-signed the trolls accusation, by quoting and agreeing with the same, that this thread was only an attempt to generate snark on another board. He’s is trolling, so I expect him to be an idiot. But co-signing it, that’s something else.
Lol. So you are completely dishonest. Like I said use the report button. Do something if you are honest with what you type.
But your response is further evidence that you, like a few others in this thread are interested in manufacturing drama not finding solutions. People expressed empathy and proposed solutions and were attacked, virgin shamed, attacked based on age, sex/gender, race. Attacks that were in no way justifiable but were based on knowingly misrepresenting the argument. Many strawmen died in this thread.
Chimera’s point of view was distorted so he could be attacked. But, hey, it generates snark content so mission accomplished.
That is an interesting tangent with regards to the economics and viability of internet message boards in general. Not sure how that applies to this specific thread though. Maybe you are too meta for me.
Ok, fair enough. I didn’t mean to co-sign it in its entirety. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
Some people here bully for sport. But that’s not all that’s going on here. I noted 2 days and about 100 posts ago in a reply to expectopatronum that some people seem genuinely squicked by Skald threads. I’ll add here that not all of those perceiving skeevy stuff are female as it happens. (While at the same time some female posters perceive bullying of an IMHO content provider in this thread as well.) Anyway, this isn’t a big admission.
My take is close to LHoD’s - I don’t see explicit content from Skald and I trust he’s fully capable of writing explicit stuff. Law and Order is far more lurid. But I’m willing to make allowances for those with different sensibilities than my own. I’d just like them to say explicitly what sort of board changes they want. If any. It’s ok if they just want to vent or express their concerns.
While I’m here, I’d like to backpeddle a little. Some of Morgenstern’s content is decent. See the thread in ATMB on the clone board. Heck, the point about acknowledging the concerns of others in this thread was good as well.
Finally Morgenstern: I don’t think Octo is trolling. I think he’s getting “Carried away”: he perceives some shit-stirring (as I do) and assumes it’s all shit-stirring (which I don’t, and said as much pages ago.) Hey, you guys wouldn’t pick on him if he was invariably sober and clear headed.
Let’s quit this nitpicking and pretending that the issue is about board policy. We’re not in ATMB here. The issue is that there is a popular, longtime poster on this board who gets off on acts of degradation, dehumanization, and abuse of women, and inserts that into his posts, and multiple female posters are speaking up, and yet certain posters persist with saying “we-ell, I don’t know, maybe if we look at it from this angle and squint my eyes just right, it doesn’t look so much like that after all! If you don’t like his threads just don’t read them! Oh these crazy womenfolk, they’re just hysterical again, and probably fatties too, LOL!” This is the issue. Even if the focus was board policy, labeling something NSFW isn’t going to cut it for this kind of shit. An NSFW label is practically an invitation to open a thread. That would not be an adequate warning at all. But that’s not really the issue here, as I said.
The thing that I find most striking about all of this is that anybody actually expected Chimera to be anything but a tone-deaf loser with a rip-roaring case of social dysfunction. Where have you people been all these years?
It’s not nitpicking. But if you don’t want any board policy changes that’s fine. Or not. Either way.
…and some female posters are taking the other side. And some male posters agree with you. And I do not.
The bulk of the discussion that his threads create is not salacious or abusive of women. So I disagree with this contention. As for my feelings, I find that allegation offensive.
This reasonable point was in fact made by a female upthread.
I’ve explicitly said pages ago, before I even knew your gender, that a variety of folk responded the same way you did.
I can’t tell whether you want to discuss board policy or not.
Post 509: well, like you said Morgenstern, I don’t hold Octo to a high standard.
To be honest and speaking generally, I internally dismiss quite a bit on this message board. But when say three agree, I pause a little. And we are way over 3 by now.
That said, I don’t entirely understand your perspective, or rather it’s a matter of guesswork on my part. Because as LHoD noted this shit is all over the place and doesn’t garner objection. Romance novels, mystery novels, TV shows. Horror. I’ve composed a parody of a Skald hypothetical in my head, but frankly I have a bit of a backlog of comments I’d like to make. Spoiler! Skald’s tone (I’m guessing) is ok in isolation. But maybe it has a cumulative effect in thread after thread that I’m missing.
Then again, someone said they don’t like reading a thread and coming across an allusion to sexual assault or other traumatic stuff. That’s legit IMHO, as is a call for a content advisory. But the latter are difficult to design without appearing ridiculous. Praise the Buddha for pseudo-anonymity.
Others say that Skald depicts violence against women in his thread. But he doesn’t in any sort of detail. That’s just libel.