The closed thread Do you bankrupt yourself to uphold the principle that slavery is eVil?
ITD, I’m not getting it. My ADD is raging so maybe reading the OP 5 times wasn’t enough and I’m still missing something. Is it the statement “But there is no mention of sex or rape,…”? Do you think bastinado is a sexual act?
TriPolar, why didn’t you put a disclaimer in front of this thread telling us there wouldn’t be any rape in it?
Oh, right–because that sort of shit is entirely unnecessary, the equivalent of grocery stores labeling their lettuce “CHOLESTEROL-FREE.” The default is that threads are rapeless and lettuce is cholesterol-free; you only need the warning if there’s rape (or cholesterol) in the unexpected place.
These disclaimers reek of sulkiness and petulance when they’re offered unnecessarily. Skald’s had multiple threads closed already for including such warnings in an obstreperously unnecessary fashion, but he’s chosen to keep adding them. Perhaps the warning will clarify matters?
I’ve been away from the Dope for a while and didn’t know about the earlier warnings. I hope this can be worked out.
No worries–the whole thing has flown pretty much under the radar, nobody’s paid much attention to it.
Just in case it’s not clear, disclaimers are only needed when the hypotheticals include graphic or demeaning sexual activity, especially if the thread titles or descttion doesn’t make it clear that’s where the threads are going.
This request was to help out other members of the board. The recent spate of disclaimers is doing just the opposite- frankly they come off as passive agressive digs at the people who took issue with his posts and at the mods who asked for the disclaimers. I certainly hope that isn’t the intent, but after communications with mods and multiple threads locked for doing this, it’s enough.
He needs to stop with the unnecessary disclaimers and just add them on those occasions described above.
TP, just filter back a week or so and look at the last thread Ed locked in ATMB. You’ll see what this is all about.
Was there a disclaimer in that thread that a mod edited out? If nothing was changed, I’m confused.
Same question about the Superman one. He asked about Superman’s real identity and Chronos closed it. Chronos also closed the cupcake thread.
I’m clearly missing something here.
This is the petulant, whiney disclaimer Skald put in that thread “Hypothetical? Obviously. Offensive? I am not your daddy. But there is no mention of sex or rape, though both slavery & torture are alluded to without description.” (in a vacuum, it’s not bad, but he’s putting similar ones on every thread he starts)
I believe the cupcake one and the Superman one weren’t about the content, which was fine, it was about the douchy disclaimer Skald is sticking on every thread.
The point of the disclaimer is to allow Skald to publish his incest/rape/porn hypotheticals* with completely misleading titles. So you open the thread and IF there’s beastiality kiddie porn or something, the disclaimer will let people avoid it. If he puts the disclaimer on every thread, it becomes meaningless and they should just outright ban him under the assumption that his disclaimers are true and all his threads contain toddler-rape scenes hidden in the middle of the text as the disclaimer implies.
*Which begs the bigger question: “Why allow them at all?” but let’s not open that can of worms.
IMHO it’s not Scald who’s behaving childishly. The board has asked for disclaimers (which are not asked for anyone else to do) and he’s giving them. Just my opinion, remember.
This probably isn’t the time to ask. I’d take too long to explain the backstory that answers this. I don’t know if anyone has the energy left.
The “i’m not touching you” routine has very little mileage. That’s what’s going on and we don’t have to dissect it more than that. The guidance is very clear and it’s easy to abide by it.
Yes, you are. So are a number of other people, apparently. Here is last week’s Mod ruling from the now-locked “Limiting/flagging/forbidding post with content offensive to other members” thread:
(Bolding is in the original, underlining added by me for emphasis.)
Skald has already been told to knock it off with the “But I’m not [del]touching you[/del] talking about rape in this thread! I’m just bringing up rape so you all know this isn’t one of those threads where I unexpectedly bring up rape!” disclaimers. The slavery thread linked in the OP here is at least the third time he’s had a thread closed for this reason in the past week. The cupcake thread and the Superman thread were before the Mod ruling I quoted above, but the slavery thread wasn’t.
Reading this was the first time I’ve laughed out loud today.
So was the thread locked because there wasn’t any graphic sexual content or because he said there wasn’t going to be any?
As someone who really doesn’t follow board drama and only poked my head into that other thread for a second…IOW, from an outsider’s point of view, this all sounds really dumb.
Someone (either the dope or skald) needs to take their ball and go home.
ETA: A)I don’t really get why he can’t say a thread is not about [triggering subject] and B)Would there really be an issue with him putting a standard disclaimer/warning in all his threads?
I’ll go back to what I said in the other thread. If you’re offended by his threads, don’t read them. Someone commented that they can’t not read threads about women being denigrated (or something along those lines), but that wasn’t the case here.
As for “I’m not touching you”, this seems more like someone sitting 6 rows behind you on the bus and yelling “I’m not touching you” at you, not that they have their finger a half inch from your face.
But from my POV it seems like everyone needs to grow up.
So, we have to have trigger warnings now?
I don’t use smilies often, but, :dubious::rolleyes::smack:
Yet, NSFW language in thread titles (the one thing you can’t avoid if it doesn’t suit your personal tastes or wherever you are reading the Dope) is A O.K. for some reason.
Again, :dubious::rolleyes::smack:
I can see how a “no warning here” warning can be taken as mod mocking. It seems a little childish. And making a big deal about it in the first place shows a lack of a sense of humor.
sigh
To be clear, the other two threads were locked after the mod ruling as well- we had reached out to him before it was posted in the ATMB thread. He knows exactly what he’s doing and the language he’s using is exactly the problem, it’s been explained to him multiple times, and he’s not listening.
I agree any one post looks like small potatoes, but he’s blatantly going against what’s been asked of him.
Indeed.
That suspend or ban him and be done with it. As I said in my previous post, take your ball and go home.
Happily, those aren’t te only options.
Well we hoped, like with lots of other posters, that a simple request and letting him know we’re serious, would have been enough. There is nothing wrong with an intervention and I reached out to him again after this reiterating what the issue is, and I’m hopeful this can be resolved.