This comment doesn’t affect you in any way. What if I were to make those dispicable comments about my sister? Would you care? No. It’s only because Donald is the POTUS. He’s a normal citizen just like you.
You think calling people psycho, low I.Q., and crazy is pretty good?
And you actually believe Trump’s claims? How’s this for a bloody face?
‘Vulgar’ is relative. My mom would view the great majority of expression you see in popular culture, and the typical ‘straightforward’ style millenials think is ‘genuine’ as ‘vulgar’. She’d definitely view President Trump as vulgar (since she viewed NY tabloid media Trump, a fixture around here long before his TV show let alone political career made him a national name, as vulgar).
But there’s a serious risk of hypocrisy for typical internet board denizens who get down and dirty about whatever or whoever they don’t like calling other people ‘vulgar’. You can resort to the ‘not presidential’ gambit I suppose, if you don’t mind beating a very dead horse.
I’m sure your sister is a lovely person, but unless she holds some position of importance or influence in public affairs, then of course I’m not going to care one way or another about her or anything said about her. Whether or not these comments made by Trump are despicable or not is almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The question is are the comments effective in obtaining a certain narrow objective - that objective being to retain a favorability with the voting public.
By voting public, I don’t mean all the voting public, but the amount of the voting public that is continually giving wins to the GOP and Trump. In case you haven’t noticed this portion of the public hates, despises, loathes the press. It also loathes the vain, shallow, self centered values portrayed by much of the media. They love this shit, just like they voted the guy into office who assaulted a reporter.
I don’t think it’s necessarily “good,” but I don’t really analyze politics in this way - I find this form of analysis overly simplistic.
Much of what I post here is vulgar. Why would you assume I would object to having it labeled such? I wouldn’t write like I normally do here if I was writing my resume.
Bolding mine. Uh huh, Trump calling people out on THEIR vanity :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
It may not affect anyone here personally, but to have a president who is unable to withstand the least criticism and routinely propagates demonstrable falsehoods while blithely ignoring many of his proper duties is of concern to every U.S. citizen. Yes, it is because he’s the POTUS, and he damn well ought to act like one instead of like a spoiled ten year old brat.
Yes of course, that’s where things do get weird. Somehow, for whatever reason, Trump being Trump (ostentatious displays of wealth and all) is OK, but this reporter’s plastic surgery is not. Perhaps its a tribal thing, I really don’t know. All I’m doing is describing the likely effect this tweet will have on the portions of voting population I described above; I couldn’t even begin to fully explain why it all works the way it does.
Not really. Anonymous internet message boards are a recognized safe space for vulgar speech (at least, some of them are: I could probably get away with calling another SDMB poster a “low-IQ crazy who’s bleeding badly from a face-lift” in the BBQ Pit, but if I tried it in Great Debates the mods would (rightly) be on me like a pack of wolves on a wounded deer).
National-news-level social media under one’s own real name, on the other hand, is not an appropriate place for “getting down and dirty” with insults and offensive personal remarks. So no, there’s nothing whatever hypocritical about swearing and ranting like a drunken sailor in the Pit as one nameless nobody among all the other swearing and ranting nameless nobodies, while still considering it vulgar for Trump to indulge in his spiteful little catfights on his public Twitter account.
Yes.
We expect the POTUS to lead by example. Do you think this example is one you want your kids following, or will you hide it from them?
It only convinces the people who were convinced long ago.
Everyone else is seeing Trump acting like a bully and that’s going to backfire on Trump. Trump was voted into office by pretending to be the champion of the little people; somebody who would stand up for them against the powerful authority figures who would abuse them. Trump has to maintain that illusion. He can’t afford to be revealed as what he really is; a powerful authority figure who abuses little people.
I agree with you that Trump should be setting an example for our kids , if a kid acted like trump in school they would be send to the principle’s office .
That something would be ribbing him about having a fake magazine cover (with him on the cover) hanging in his golf club room. Yeah, he may have over-reacted.
Necessarily, people who admire Trump or attach any authority to his views cannot possibly think that any of these characteristics are bad.
Sadly, I believe that you are correct.
Au contraire.
Those who jumped on the Trump wagon as the anti-establishment candidate (rather than the “Anyone But Hillary” group-thunk) don’t merely want to stand up to those powerful authority figures. They want to abuse and denigrate them. They want them taken down in public forums. This is retribution/“boot on the other foot” time for real Americans.
And isn’t their boy doing a good job doing it.
If someone insulted my wife in the way Thrump insulted Mika, I would take, or make, an opportunity to break his nose, bloody his lip, and break a rib or two. However, if I realized that the insulter was obviously mentally deficient, for whatever reason, I’d probably suggest to his family that he be evaluated and, perhaps, institutionalized.