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i loaned an extra car I had to my ex- daughter in law, fresh out of prison, to help her get back on her feet. Because she is the worlds worst driver I allowed her to register it in her name so I would not be held responsible when she runs over someone. We had a verbal agreement that as long as she stayed clean from drugs and took good care of my grandson and worked and lived in my house she could use it to get her life going again. Two days later she took off with the car and my grandson. I have gotten him back but she still has the car. How do I get it back?

Is it too late to report it as stolen?

You registered the car in her name? Didn’t that involve a title transfer? I’m confused by what you mean. If it’s in her name, then doesn’t she own the car now?

If the title is in your name you can report it stolen. If you know where the car is and have a key just go get it.

I’m not sure you can register a car in someone else’s name besides the owner though. If you gave her the car, you are SOL, just be glad you have your grandson in safety.

The registration won’t matter if you have a valid legal title.

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Verbal agreements don’t hold any weight.

Hi, taken for a fool. I think you might need to watch a few episodes of “Judge Judy” - I think the car is gone and sooner or later you’ll end up cutting all ties with your ex-daughter-in-law because she can’t get her life together. I wish you all the best with her and your grandson, though.

Best screen name/OP ever.

This reminds me of a scene from A Bronx Tale.

Opie & Anthony - Rich Vos stars in “A Bronx Tale” The scene doesn’t finally get played out until about 17:48. The first 17 minutes is ball busting.
The rough text of the scene is here in case you don’t want to “watch” the “video” (audio with a picture).

Granted, that car probably cost more than $20.

I’m also reminded of the story of the scorpion and the frog. Your ex-daughter-in-law sounds like a scorpion, and you might need to see her for who she is, not who you want her to be.

This has all the makings of a Country and Western song.

I’ll give you it has Momma and prison in it… But where are trains mentioned?

The OP was drunk the day his daughter-in-law got out of prison,
He went, to pick her up, in the rain,
but before he could get to the station in his pick up truck,
he got ran over by a damned ol’ train.

Be grateful you have your grandson and consider the car the cost of seeing your DIL for what she really is.

Woulda been better if he loaned her a pickup truck, and a hound dog.

And why do you think that? This certainly is not true in other common law jurisdictions and I’m fairly certain this is not true in the USA. The difficulty with verbal agreements though is that it is usually more difficult to prove what was agreed,that the intention was that for both parties to be legally bound and that both parties received consideration than written agreements. However as the civil standard of proof is on the balance of probability it is not impossible to enforce verbal agreements.

Or in other words the OP is probably better off getting advice from a lawyer than random people on a message board.

I hate the ones that name themselves after their current crisis. They won’t be back after the thread ends, and might not even stay that long.

Oh no, I foresee Taken for a fool to be a long time member here.

I still don’t understand what kind of registering it he means, or why registering in her name protects him if she runs over someone with the car, while registering in his name holds him liable for her actions.

Not always true…:slight_smile: