I’m happy to take the bullet for the healthy. I’m kind like that.
Why can’t a business (a pub, bar) decide to be a smoking bar? Then those with delicate lungs could go elsewhere and we grizzled, stinky smokers could also make a choice.
That’s what irks me.
Ok that and the DUMB ads.
We had a memo the other day about people smoking outside (ie, me and half the company, plus the inordinate amount of builders coming in and out of the building) leaving tab ends on the pavement outside.
Well, there used to be a little wall mounted cig bin, but they took it off because somebody had the great idea of plastering/rendering all around it, meaning it couldn’t be opened and emptied. What should we do with them then?
Think things through idiots. I hear talk of banning smoking in outside public places too. But are they banning or restricting car emissions? I think not.
I choose to fuck up my lungs, i’m considerate to non smokers as far as I can be, fuck you.
You know what pisses me off about some smokers,… the ones who proceed to have their entitled lunch at work, but then later/earlier feel that they are also entitled to smoke breaks. :mad:
That’s all I have to add. That, and, I believe that the smoking ads are really to educate people who haven’t started smoking yet.
In general I quite like the smoking ban in Ireland - even though I’m a smoker myself, it has made pubs much more pleasant to be in (except for being able to smell the smells that stale tobacco smoke covered up!).
But one thing that -really- annoys me is walking past some pubs and you can barely see the pavement for the butts.
If an establishment does not offer adequate disposal facilities for smokers and causes this excessive littering they should be fined. It looks disgusting, and creates a poor advert for tourism (and the place in question IMO).
I heard on the radio the other day that Australia is bringing in a smoking ban in 2007(?), but one town has already decided to go further, by not only bringing it in next month, but also banning smoking with 10 metres (or something) of any non-smoking area (eg, pubs, restaurants, etc).
While I hardly think they’ll crack down too much on smokers just walking past, it still seems like an amazingly hard thing to police, and smokers on a road lined with cafes and bars are knackered.
Fair enough, the majority of people now don’t smoke, and ciggie smoke can be acrid and foul - but in the outdoors? Unless there’s a herd of them chain-smoking a dozen at a time or they’re standing next to you deliberately trying to get smoke in your face you’re not going to notice it that much! Especially if you are breathing traffic fumes anyway.
Are you not entitled to a break from the computer once in the morning and once in the afternoon?
If so, does it matter if people are going for a ciggy, or sitting in the rest room or whatever?
I do sympathise though, when I used to work the offices I’d take my allocated breaks and use them for a ciggy, yet there were an awful lot of people who would just jump up once an hour or so and bugger off for ten minutes to smoke and stand around chatting.
I’m referring to the people who have their entitled breaks, but then feel entitled to more then others because they need to smoke.
I imagine local law enforcement would find that just as hard to police as it is to bust the 14 yr olds smoking under a “thank-you for not smoking” sign, outside the police beat at Indooroopilly Shopping Centre Bus Interchange.
:smack: Oh wait, that’s not hard to police, they just for some reason, choose not to.
Well some, I don’t smoke and I don’t care what you do.
Although I don’t smoke, and don’t like the smell of it, I don’t support smoking bans. If there’s a bar or restaurant that has too much smoke in it, I’ll go somewhere else. If the establish.
You’re not too bad at it yourself
Smokers take longer breaks. First, they need to gather up all of their smoking buddys. Next, get outside. Then, and only then, do they believe their break begins when the get outside and light up the first one.
Also, don’t forget their “bathroom” breaks when they step outside for a few drags.
And bad managers allow it to happen.
It’s called FUCKING BABYSITTING.
Smokers force me to have to be an asshole. I don’t want to have to use a stopwatch on an adult. Yet, smokers force me to. I don’t want to have to write people up because they took a longer break. Smokers force me to.
I can’t wait for that smoking ban to pass here. I will be reporting any violations to the city. Remind me to laugh when they’re outside in freezing weather.
They’ll still be not working.
I was the team leader in IBM. I had to babysit the stupid fucks for a lot of reasons. Smoking during work time was one of them. I’m a smoker BTW but I was paid to make sure the line was staffed correctly. My answer to people who moaned to me about their addiction was that I had to deal with the same thing, suck it up or find another job.
A team leader not the team leader
It was only 20 years ago. I used to work at my desk with a coffee going cold and a cigarette wasting away in the ashtray because I was too absorbed with my work. Occassionally I’d look to the ashtray for a drag, only to find that my cigarette burned down to the filter and I have to light up a new one. I had one of those ashtrays with an inner rim so that an expiring cigarette would not fall out and burn down the office.
Fortunately I no longer smoke, but I do feel a sense of nostalgia for the days when smoking was considered a right, no one complained, and one was able to constantly medicate themselves.
My local pub (in Bolton) has a sign up saying that after consultation with staff and customers “Smoking is permitted throughout these premises”. Mind you, there’s no smoking ban in the UK so such a dec;laration is perfectly legal.
Will you be the sort of person who will report things like the smokers’ shed at my wife’s office, that got reported because it had more than 50% walls intact and therefore violated the law (even though it violated no non-smoker’s rights)?
Isn’t there some talk of bringing one in?
quite possibly. I don’t keep up on these things anymore as i am now an ex-smoker.
Culturally speaking, I can’t see a carpet ban working in the UK. In my opinion the government that brought in such a law would be voted out poste haste and the law repealed.