I’ve tried repeatedly to argue with both the far left and the far right on Twitter. I gave up. They are absolutely unreachable. Feel free to swim in that cesspool if you like, but I’ve had enough.
I went to each of your links. I’m not offended and I certainly not willing to vote for a Republican.
I’d like to talk to just one white person who favors progressive politics who will abandon their principles because white guys are getting a little grief on the internet. I’m skeptical that any exist.
It’s not just Twitter. This is the culture of young progressives. Young men exploring the political terrain will see this if they are not blind and deaf.
Huh? Anyone with literally any thesis could easily find tons of tweets in support of their position. So what? Twitter is huge.
We’re talking here about young people who haven’t solidly chosen a side yet. They are looking for a club to join more than a set of policy prescriptions (sad as that is to say). Who has the welcome sign out for them?
You are a true Scotsman! Some of those tweets had hundreds of likes and retweets.
What about the people that voted for Obama twice, but then switched to Trump in 2016? They definitely exist.
Also a good question. Was that precognition of the tax cut, LHOD? :dubious:
ETA: I will acknowledge that if you peered inside these people’s brains, it’s not necessarily pretty: “Okay, I thought as a fair-minded person we needed to have a black president, and he did a good job…but now it seems like women and blacks are totally taking over and squeezing us out altogether.” But votes are votes.
Indeed. But I hardly think it’s because “people are saying mean things about white guys.”
Hey look, I can link to the New York Times too.
I’m a middle aged white guy.
I have never felt ‘sneered at’ by the Democratic party.
Frankly, I’m damned tired of this pussy footing “Gosh, if the democrats insult someone, anyone, people might turn away from them!” It’s a garbage argument.
How many people don’t respect the Democrats because they DON’T stand up for themselves? I’d bet it’s more than the ‘Oh gosh, you can’t say bad things or you’re every bit as bad as the racists!’ lot.
So what? Again, Twitter is huge. You could find hundreds of likes and retweets for any position. That tells us nothing.
No true Scotsman would be accurate if I said those weren’t liberals. I’m not saying that at all.
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So…they are liberals with large followings, and there’s no sign of other liberals taking issue with their framing. But there’s no problem! Okey doke.
FTR, I meant nothing literally sexual about anyone here or anywhere else for that matter. Anyone who knows me knows that’s not my style. But I apologize to anyone who felt sexualized.
No, you really don’t have to believe that, given the complete lack of evidence for your thesis. We know that you practice paternalistic racism. We know that a podcast offended you, so you scolded the podcasters, and they clapped back at your scolding. We know that the phrase “mediocre white men” apparently gets under your skin, to the degree that you hunted up a bunch of tweets using the phrase and held them forth, saying see? SEE??!?!!?!
What we DON’T have any evidence for is that progressivism is hurting Democrats. All we have is some self-pitying sulky sour grapes.
To be fair, I can conjure up plenty of anecdotes from alt-righters who CLAIM that the reason Trump won, and/or the reason they themselves or others are alt-righters is because of progressive sneering. I guess we can throw the OP on the pile of anecdotes that also make that claim.
I just don’t buy it, not when I see all the other BS alt-righters are worked up over. If every progressive in the world stopped the sneering immediately, they’d still think that Angela Merkel was destroying Germany with pro-Muslim, pro-immigrant policies. They’d still believe in no-go zones in London. They’d still believe that illegal immigrants are causing a crime wave in the US. They’d still believe that ANTIFA is a major threat to their rights. They’d still believe that welfare queens are the reason their taxes are high, and the reason the government budget is so big.
Which is the more important factor in “white men”: “white” or “men”?
And of course, the Irony in this is that;
Conservatives regularly mock and make jokes about Democrats and LIBERALS.
Conservatives tell Libs that we’re a bunch of pussies who need to grow a pair and be tougher people because they’re just jokes.
They call us “Snowflakes” for melting under their heat. :rolleyes:
THEN
We have this argument. Which is basically “Liberals are being mean to us”.
SO
The people who mock others for not being strong enough to stand up to “jokes” and call them “snowflakes”, are themselves the biggest whiny little snowflakes.
The “they” that you are referring to here are not the people that are being lost. We never had them.
I remember when this last hurricane hit Houston. Lot’s of red hat wearing folks, hooked their boats up to their trucks and headed on down to Houston to help out the survivors regardless of their skin color. Meanwhile, you have large swaths of progressives calling these same people “racists” because they voted for Trump.
Yeah, that’s a real good “winning” strategy there.