Snowplow vs mailbox

I live in a small (7000) town in New England that just got hammered with our first major snowfall. 13 inches in 11 hours. So I’m watching the snowplows do their job last night around 6 and wham one comes just a little too close and takes out my mailbox. Crap. Add that to my list of things to do on Saturday. I position it back up there on the post best I can and hold it down with a couple of bungee cords until the weekend, because the Post Office will not deliver if they can’t reach the mail box. Ten minutes ago, I get a call from the Town. that goes like this:

“Hello, Mr Octalcode?”

“yep”

“This is Sam from the town calling. We want to apologize for knocking over your mailbox. New driver and all that. We’ll be out early Monday to replace the whole thing, seeing it was our fault. Sorry for any inconvienence this may have caused”

“ummm ok thanks”

I grew up in a fairly large city 30 miles south of here, and if this had happened there, the snowplow driver would have given me the finger and kept on going.
Does anything like this ever happen in your town?

I’m in a town about 15 miles north of Boston population 14k or so, and I’ve had my mailbox taken out by a plow at least 4 times in the past 10 years. Never a peep from the town or the driver.

By your location I see you are in Connecticut huh? I live down on the coast of CT and we had this happen last winter. I had to call the town, and they did come out but it took them the better part of a week…I think your plow driver wanted to keep his job and reported this to his super. Don’t get me wrong, the town I live in is beautiful but the powers that be at the town hall are a little lax in their efforts in this town.

I hear you guys got a foot up there in northern CT, we got 4 inches of goo down here in New London County.

Finger Lakes, Upstate NY chiming in. My mailbox and post was replaced by the town after a plow took it out. Took out ten in a row 'tween utility poles. Not a new driver, just a new truck. Some places are nicer than others about things like this.

If the plow didn’t win the battle you spent way to much time building that mailbox:)

I know someone who liked to go “boxing” as a teen; i.e., knocking mailboxes off their posts with a baseball bat while being a passenger in a moving vehicle.

Then he bought a house.

His mailbox now resides inside a brick pillar that he built himself. :smiley:

Haven’t had a plow hit my mailbox yet, but so far, every dealing I’ve had with this city says they’d handle it the way your town did. Sure a big change from living in Detroit and Minneapolis!

Small town Maine. Been here 28 years and 5 or 6 mailboxes. The Town will replace it if asked. Most of the time I don’t bother. I’ve plowed before and it’s a bitch on wheels to try and dodge and weave among the poles, the traffic and still see what you’re doing. The margin of error is just inches. Most of the time the box itself hasn’t been touched, it’s the wave of snow rolling off the plow that rips the box off its moorings like a tsunami does to inattentive tourists.

Snowplow/mailbox encounters happen all the time around here. But there is a Highway Department regulation that specifies the height and distance parameters from the roadway edge and if your mailbox was too close or the wrong height, the Highway Dept. won’t pay to fix it.

But if you build your mailbox as far back as it should be, the mailman can’t reach it. :rolleyes:

in defense of plow drivers, i offer my former seven years of employment in public works municipality and a LOT of experience in dealing with complaints.

now, i might not have ***told * ** you what i’ve written below, but you can be damn sure i was thinking it! :stuck_out_tongue:

to wit:

chances are very good the driver that just took out your mailbox has been out in snowy conditions plowing for a lot longer than your office work day lasts. tired? you have no idea how tired they get. probably don’t want to, although OSHA had gone a long way to improving that situation in recent years. it’s a heavy-duty strain on the senses from start to finish.

in order for plow blades to do what they’re designed to do, the driver has to maintain a certain truck speed, otherwise the blade won’t hold to the road and there won’t be a nice clean road surface for you to drive on. if they stopped, a goodly chunk of the road wouldn’t get cleaned off, since it takes a certain distance for the truck to get back up to speed. and in most cases, the blade doesn’t take out your mailbox. the snow wave – which is already traveling at a pretty darn good clip ahead of the truck – is usually the culprit. not always, of course, and sometimes mailboxes do get sacrificed to the snow gods because of an inattentive driver.

if the town driver did take out your mailbox, all you had to do was call in and tell me and our department would buy and install a proper replacement for you (matching whatever covenant your subdivision might impose) as soon as the road conditions improved enough where we *could * take the time to do so.
remember, there are hundreds of miles of roads to be plowed – even in little towns – and it all takes time. the pressure is on with the first snowflake and doesn’t let up until the last foot of road is bare to the asphalt or concrete.

the state takes care of it’s state roadways and interstates but the rest is up to a county or a city or a town or even a private contractor if things are sticky enough. main roads and thoroughfares are the primary targets, residential streets are secondary, and cul-de-sacs? you are SO way down on the priority list. if you don’t want that four feet of snow sitting at the foot of your driveway, don’t purchase a home in a residential cul-de-sac, or put up with it until we can get back and improve things. that was the numero uno complaint i would hear over and over: my driveway’s plowed under!

and lastly, if a driver ever did give you the finger or behave in some similar fashion and you caught the truck number and reported the incident to us or to the town manager’s office, said driver would find his ass severely chewed and a witten reprimand in his personnel file before the end of the next business day. needless to say it’s frowned upon - and if it isn’t it should be.

getting off my soapbox now. and i too used to lose my mailbox to plow drivers when i lived in a residental neighborhood (different city). i’d just shrug, go out, and hammer it back into place, because i’d poorly attached it to the post in the first place. something i never did repair properly…

these days i find myself chasing my condo complex private contract driver down the street because he’s missed plowing out my driveway – AGAIN. :smiley:

Another CT person here … we should do a dopefest=)

I have a mailbox protected by a plywood snowbreak … stops the snow wave from nailing the box and popping it off. I know I see them around the countryside around here a lot especially in the winter=)

Just another reason why your mail slot should be on your front door

Oh sure, and then have the plow knock down your front door. Thanks, but I think I’ll pass. :smiley:

Out in the country the boxes have to be at the roadside…

No doubt at all that he was tired, and I certainly give the driver a lot of credit. They do a great job plowing here.

I was prepared to do all the repairs myself. I never expected them to call.

That was far more common in the city we used to live in. Complaints were never followed up. They also hire a ton of private contractors on an “as needed” basis. They were like a team of mercinaries with trucks. It was (and still is) awful there. I’ll take the small-town country life any day.

My favorite (likely apocryphal but still amusing) snowplow/mailbox story for 25 years has still been this one:

Guy got tired of his mailbox getting knocked over so he went to the county and hired surveyors to determine his property line. Two feet back from his property line he dug a 3’6"x2’x2’ hole. He installed a 4’x2’x2’ concrete post…

The next snowfall the plow caught that 6"x2’x2’ block of concrete and spun around in a little ciricle. Hate and discontent ensued but the property owner won…

That’s the normal solution, but impractical in areas where driveways are, in and of themselves, 1/2 mile long.

What a bunch of shit.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to drive a lawn mower/salt/sand/plow truck and most of the drivers really don’t care if your poor mailbox takes a hit. In our rural areas those idiots caused so many complaints that counties finally gave in and provided break-away mailbox stanchions. There’s a vertical post inside the property line; the mailbox is welded to an extended horizontal pipe; and inbetween the vertical and the horizontal resides a hinged 45 degree angled part. After a heavy Minnesota snow there are a bunch of snowplow-hit mailboxes pointing to the sky but they are easily pulled down again for mail delivery.

I’m sure that’s what would happen here if anybody had mailboxes, but we don’t. Everybody has to get a PO box. It sucks mightily.

Wait a minute.

Snowplow? You actually get snowplows to come to your houses?

We get out the binoculars and watch the snowplows go by on the interstate. We don’t even have paved roads for snowplows to do their thing on! Getting out of this area requires four wheel drive and chains.

And your mail box is out right in front of your house where you can see it? My mail box is more than 4 miles from here down on what used to be the old US Highway 40. When the plow takes that out everybody’s goes at the same time. And we get to wait for the USPS to replace it and drive into town to the post office 'till they do!

Snowplows indeed.

What a bunch of wimps.

:smiley:

Lucy

FYI: There are mailbox mountings that swing left or right then return to the center without damage. I can’t find any samples by Froogling, but I see them in many rural areas.

You must be reading my mail!.
:smiley:

pfft

When I was a teenager, a bunch of kids kept bashing and plowing down the mailboxes of some people down the road. So they dug a 5’ deep post hole, got a 9’ heavy duty steel pole, and sank the sucker into some serious cement.

About the time of the first snowfall, the smashers came back. Their car didn’t fare so well against the new post. It was in the ditch. Footprints went about 1.5 miles across the nearby fields directly to their house. Wasn’t hard for the Sheriff to find them.

The township snowplow fared only slightly better.

They did a bit better job of not plowing down mailboxes after that one. :smiley: