So, about Seven of Nine

Do you mean Fifth Third Bank?

Or am I missing some other reference?

J.

Unimatripodes.

They aren’t speaking English, it’s the universal translator.

It knows how to perfectly translate languages even on first contact. And it knows to leave certain words or phrases untranslated to assist with a getting-to-know-you dialogue.

It’s no good with metaphor, though.

OK, but I think that was retconned after TOS. The aliens, though, are amazingly not only all more or less humanoid, but able to coexist in the same environmental conditions with humans. But I suppose that could be solved with an explanation that only M-class planets have the conditions to evolve intelligent life, which tend to become humanoid because that’s the ideal evolutionary ‘model’ for those conditions. I also think I heard somewhere about the possibility of ‘space seeding’ that was done eons ago by some super-race. I don’t know if that’s at all canon though, or just somebody’s speculation I read somewhere.

Anyway, I tease 'cause I love. Not a superfan, but I enjoy the Star Trek universe, despite their occasional lapses in grammar.

Myself, I prefer the traditional fish.

It also has a “family values” filter, which is why it doesn’t translate all those Klingon swear words.

Ah, so it is more or less canon, thanks. Don’t know if I remember that episode. We’re getting rid of Paramount+ for now, but for the week or so more we have it I might look up ‘The Chase’, thanks.

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Even “space seeding” isn’t enough to account for all intelligent life being human-shaped. Consider some of the other species on Earth that come close to us in intelligence: Octopodes, corvids and elephants have to have come from the same “seed” as humans, since our divergence from them was long, long after the origin of life, but they all have completely different bodily shapes from we do. It’s not hard to imagine a few rolls of the dice going a little differently, and ending up with one of them as the apex sophont on the planet. Heck, Star Trek doesn’t even have anything as different from us as the other great apes, who can use all four of their limbs as hands.

In one or two of the TOS episodes it was strongly hinted at humanoid life was seeded throughout the Galaxy.

Return to Tomorrow was one of the ones I’m remembering. Sargon pretty much says/claims humans are the descendants of his people.


The Paradise Syndrome is the other where it is at least strongly hinted at.
The “Preservers” were an ancient race that resettled humanoids to ensure their survival.


I’m pretty sure it was straight out said in some of the early novels, but those aren’t canon.

Most egregious of all is that most (all?) of the humanoid races in star trek can produce fertile young, meaning that we’re all actually the same species.

Vulcans needed a lot of medical/science attention. Partly as the blood types were very different. IIRC, Vulcans are copper based though Roddenberry screwed up and thought that would make the blood green instead of blue.

But yes, most humanoids seemed to be fertile with most others and of course even Vulcans were fully fertile with Romulans.

You can call me Seven of Nine.
I’ll answer.
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I was screwed over by Google search – wasn’t sure if 3rd or 5th was the leadoff, entered 3rd and got a wall of “Third Fifth Bank,” which, I now know, directs you to “Fifth Third Bank.”

That said, maybe the Borg have a Third Fifth Bank; maybe they assimilated Fifth Third Bank to make “First One Bank,” but haven’t gotten around to changing the letterhead.

This is futile.

“We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your money and safe deposit box distinctiveness to our own.”

Well, Vulcans and Romulans are the same species.

And a lot of science fiction has posited that humans are actually the descendants of aliens, but it just doesn’t work. We’re clearly related to the other apes: OK, Larry Niven tried to handwave that away by saying that apes also evolved from the Pak. But apes are clearly related to other primates, and primates are clearly related to rodents, and they’re clearly related to other mammals, and so on. In fact, everything on Earth is clearly related, because we all have the same genetic code, and the odds against that would be combinatorically high, if we weren’t related.

I wasn’t talking science, I was talking Star Trek poor logic.

Seventh? Seven? Third? Three? Consistency?

Give it up. Resistance. It is futile.