So, Blue Jeans are Inappropriate for the Office, but Leggings and Flip Flops are Just Fine?

Also you don’t understand how hot it can get and the humidity.It only takes couple of minutes to sweat it does matter your car, store, office, work place, city bus so on have AC.

Just opening you front door is blast of hot air.

And Phoenix, Las Vegas and death valley is like walking into hot furnace. I would take Miami humidity any day over this.

The point is people in New York city, Washington DC, Paris, London dress up more. It culture shock when you go to Florida or Hawaii and see so many people in t-shirt, shorts, tank tops, flip flops and basketball shorts.

If you dress like that in New York city, Washington DC, Paris, London you should carry sign saying I’m visiting your city. Why? Because people don’t dress like that even walking on the street, fast food, local store, grocery store, gas station,bar so on. You just don’t leave house looking like that any where.

The t-shirt, shorts, tank tops, flip flops and basketball shorts are clothes for house, gym and beach. Not city wear.

Same thing for girls in leggings. These are gym clothes.

It just that in New York city, Washington DC, Paris, London people dress up more. Out side of New York city proper it can get really casual.

Wow. You need to get out more.

I wore business casual for about a decade and never dry-cleaned a pair of slacks. And very few blouses (I own two silk blouses that I love, so yeah, those). Slacks like thesefrom Macy’s are work-appropriate and machine washable.

Bosses have irrational likes and dislikes just like everyone else. I worked for one who only allowed jeans that were not blue on “jeans days”. Purple, pink, red, white, yellow, green, all fine. Blue? No.

I thought coloured jeans looked naff, so I never wore any jeans at all.

People in Florida walk around in t-shirts, shorts and flip-flops because it’s hotter and more humid than hell.

FWIW down here in tropical humid SJ, PR, the dress standards tend to be surprisingly overformal. Yet somehow I fail to find the 2-block walk from the parking lot to the office annex in business clothes to be some sort of Death March of Sweat.

Still even here “bluejeans”/sneakers are considered too casual while tights/sandals are OK

First. Anybody with a username of SweatXYZ probably knows what they are talking about when it comes to the Deep South and humidity :slight_smile:

Second, yes the humidity down here does suck donkey balls…and yes, even as thin healthy younger man I’ve experienced the drenched in sweat just walking from the car to store/workplace thingy…

Third. I had a crazy asshole boss (actually the boss of the boss of the boss sorta thing) that got all crazy about (among other things) a dress code.

I came DAMN close to expressing my Scottish heritage by revolting and wearing a kilt to work every day just to fuck with that fucker.

Happy ending of sorts. That fucker eventually got the shit sued out of him for a “sexual harrassment” claim. Most people thought the actual claim was bullshit BUT on the other hand he had gotten away with so much other crap that nobody cared about the facts of that particular matter.

You have zero idea what you are talking about. I live in NYC and this summer has been brutally hot. Every day I see people in the street and in stores wearing t-shirts, shorts, flip flops, tank tops, etc. If you think everyone dresses up here at all times of the day you are insane.

I’m not going to play the I’ve-been-more-places-than-you game, but I have been to all of the above, some on a regular basis and live in the mid-south. If I were you, I’d get a physical, because you have more issues than a dry cleaning bill.

Not to derail this thread but is this a Mid-west/East Coast thing? If I arrived to work with anything but bluejeans on my boss would probably be worried that I am interviewing for other jobs.

Same here. We’re practical in the Colorado mountains. As long as your clean, who cares.

I was thinking it’s more of an industry dependent thing. And I think sweat209really is way more heat sensitive than the average bear. I’m in Florida and all the men where I work(the slobs I mentioned in my previous post are almost all women)wear long sleeve dress shirts (with, I assume t-shirts underneath) and you don’t see anyone walking around with giant pit stains or anything. Not to say that it isn’t sometimes pretty unpleasant here but not everyone is dressed in beach wear. You get used to it.

We have no formal dress code for teaching (except, perhaps, “don’t be fully naked”) and what a circus it is!

For the most part, women dress to teach: dress pants, blazers, silk or buttondown shirts, scarves, and dress shoes.

A few of the younger women do the leggings/yoga pant thing, but usually pair with a nice shirt and an artsy scarf.

Some men have their “khaki” uniform: Dockers, a different short-sleeve plaid shirt for each day, and some variant of Topsiders.

A few guys go “Mr. Chips” and wear tweed jackets, buttondown shirts, and jeans (and yes, I know Chips wore an academic gown).

And, this being academe, we have a contingency of males who wear their torn Brian Eno concert shirts (ca. 1981), jeans from the same era, and hippie sandals.

Or maybe industry-specific? I work near Boston, for a software firm. My VP wears flannel shirts, jeans and LL Bean boots.

I wear jeans – or leggings – and sweaters for half the year.

Just another vote for leggings and the like being ok under certain circumstances. Obviously not in a upper-echelon law office, but something like this or this? I don’t see the issue. Ok, so I’ve been wearing things like that for most of my life, in multiple environments. :smiley: Never had a complaint.

ETA: I also have no problem with jeans in an office environment, as long as you (and the trousers) are overall well-kempt. Dark, neat jeans with a nice shirt and a blazer is a classic look for either gender.

If you really want to wear jeans in a place where blue jeans are banned, just get some in another color. That’s what I did to get around a school dress code back in the day.

Apparently the specific prohibition on the blue colored ones go to back in the day when only poor manual workers wore them and they usually got grubby.

About five years ago our office went from business casual to jeans (as long as jeans are appropriate for what you’re doing on the day). But NO SNEAKERS. Now they’re finally letting us wear sneakers. Weird.

See you one silly assed dress code stipulation and raise you one. We had one once that specified no WHITE sneakers. So we all ran out and bought black.

To the OP-there is a nice tho’ spendy product called Downy Wrinkle Release. I suspect it’s just Downy fabric softener in a spray bottle. But if you get your stuff out the dryer, hang it and spray with this stuff, it comes out pretty good.

And then the women complain it’s too cold in the office, and the AC gets set at 28C and us men are roasting! :mad:

Today in my office:

Man in shorts and flip flops
Man in shorts and grotty Teva-type sandals
Woman in short shorts and shower slides
Woman in leggings and waist-length T-shirt

So okay, I tried the washing, drying, and hanging up on one of my cotton blouses yesterday…

…and it looks like I slept in it, especially around the collar.

I can’t imagine what a pair of slacks would come out like.

Back to the dry cleaners. But I will be buying more t-shirt like tops that do wash well. At least, I’ll buy them as soon as I have money to do so, which won’t be very soon, because of all the dry cleaning bills.